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  1. MtnLion

    Small Questions v. 10105

    I disagree, and many would. 281 was the false spring, and the beginning of 282 had been so bitterly cold as to freeze the Blackwater over. The way the wording is presented, GRRM is conveying that Daenerys was born in the seventh or eighth month of the year. That would agree with Jon being born very late, eleventh or twelfth month of the previous year. In any event, the rebellion lasted near a year. There was at least nine months between the Battle of the Bells and the end of the war, for Robb to be born. Notice that this places Robb's birth in the ninth month of the year, or perhaps a bit later. And, Jon is born less than ten days before Ned arrives at the tower. He is more likely born three to five days before Ned arrives. Daenerys is born less than nine months after the sack, or she is not Aerys' git (a not unreasonable idea). But she is born more than eight months after Jon, who is born about a fortnight after the sack. Make those line up, and it becomes pretty easy to see.
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    Given that 281-282 were winter, at no time would 283 or 284 be considered summer. That is if one tried to take this sort of tack. Being born during a "summer" storm that destroyed her father's fleet . . . It is just going to have to be "summer" as we view summer with 12 month seasons.
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    Here's a for instance: Daenerys was born 8-9 months after Jon. She was born no more than 9 months after Rhaella left King's Landing, if Aerys is her father. She says that she was born nine months after Rhaella left King's Landing. We know that the Trident was the motive for Rhaella to leave King's Landing. Daenerys was born within nine months of Rhaegar's death. Jon was born within a month after Rhaegar's death. Daenerys was born during a "summer" storm. I wouldn't put May or even June into the summer months, yet early May is given as Daenerys' nameday on that timeline. My reading is that The Trident and sack happened in October (maybe November). Jon was born a week or so after the sack. Daenerys was born in July (or possibly August) of 284.
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    There is no really solid evidence that I can recall offhand either way on the actual ages of Jon and Robb. However, Jon had to have been born at the time of the sack or a bit later, for puerperal fever to have been the cause of Lyanna's death. And, we know that Catelyn takes Robb to Winterfell after the war, as anewborn. My impression of the reading in the first few chapters of GoT was that Jon was a fortnight younger than Robb. Also, we know that the sack of King's Landing was quite late, like tenth month of 283. The Battle of the Bells was fought before Ned and Catelyn wed, and was the first battle in 283. Afterwards, Ned is away near a year (Catelyn says year, putting Robb's age at 3 months when she travels to Winterfell, yes?) I take these trial timelines with a huge grain of salt. They appear to be proffered by those who have an agenda, and when errors are pointed out, they vehemently oppose having the errors corrected.
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    We could bring screenplay Barristan and Grey Worm into the discussion. It seems clear that there is level of fighter that is far above the ordinary skilled fighter. GRRM did write that Jaime killed a dozen good men, and Barristan killed a dozen good men. Even half that number skews the odds severely against Ned's party. Ned's party consists of five maybe good men (no mention of health from earlier battles), a crannogman and a boy squire, all having been travelling in haste for near a fortnight (by my calendar). @Rob StormThe great standoff between Ned and Jaime is because Ned wanted Robert to send Jaime to the Wall, at a minimum, for breaking his oath. Instead Robert forgave him. Ned regards Jaime as an oath breaker. Jaime resents that his finest deed is viewed so dimly by The Ned. There is nothing in the White Book that we know of regarding those three dying, except in the screenplay. Only Jaime and Barristan would write to the White Book, or read from it. I wonder who the screenplay will make Lord Commander, now. (Let's hope not Ser Robert.)
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    Willem Darry fled the king, when he left with Viserys and Rhaella. The three at the tower are comparing that to going to Dragonstone, now, to be with Rhaella and Viserys. I am not too sure that GRRM could have been any clearer, without a plain statement. Looking at past accomplishments of Kingsguard on the field of battle is illuminating. Jaime killed a dozen at the Whispering Woods. Barristan killed a dozen at the Trident. Arthur Dayne with Dawn is better than Barristan, and without Dawn is equal to Barristan. How on earth did 5 middling fighters, a carrnogman, and a squire fresh from a year in the Black Cells manage to defeat Arthur Dayne, let alone Whent and Hightower? GRRM owes us an in depth explanation.
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    Eight men died at the tower, and Ned tore the tower down to build cairns for each. No community cairns would do, showing a degree of reverence for each of the fallen. Lyanna died of a fever, after hanging on to extract promises from Ned. But you are seriously digressing from the "Small Questions" line of this thread. Let me highlight something for you, though. It is an old dream that Ned thinks does not bode well. If you want to read the analysis, there is a link in my signature. Take note of how Ned notices each white knight, too. He despises Jaime for breaking his vow, which he had witnessed at Harrenhal.
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    The numbers were far too low for it to be a logical outcome. Barristan kills a dozen good men at the Trident. Jaime kills a dozen good men at the Whispering Woods. For it to have been a fair fight, Ned needed to have 36 good men; not four, a crannogman, and a squire recently freed from a year in the Black Cells. But, Ned's dream is precisely that. The dialog is what mattered most for Ned's understanding about what went on. "Now it ends," can be assumed to be Ned's hindsight on what happened.
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    Or maybe there is something fishy going on with Lady Dustin. Hmmm.
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    My guess is four to six hundred square feet.
  11. MtnLion

    Small Questions v. 10105

    Thanks, Helena. I believe the OP on the question will be thankful that you popped in.
  12. MtnLion

    Small Questions v. 10105

    Since that thread that I linked was August 2015, I would think that anything posted on the old board afterwards is probably lost, because it was not backed up when porting into the new board. The R+L=J threads got messed up, too.
  13. MtnLion

    Small Questions v. 10105

    You looking for this?
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    The idea about reporting a topic that reaches twenty pages in length is to reduce the burden to someone new to the topic on reading up. I am not so certain that it is really relevant to the "Small Questions" thread, but it is best to let the moderators know by submitting a report.
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    Oh, you mean Dorkstar.
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