Ser Scot A Ellison
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2 minutes ago, BloodyJollyRoger said:
I’m more of a sci-fi guy.
Then perhaps Tolkien simply isn't your cup of tea. That doesn't make his work objectively "bad".
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Tolkien’s hardcore fanbase risen from the lowest deepest depths of Tartarus.
You really seem to mistake opinion for fact.
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We’re ar 23 pages on the last Tolkien thread.
Asthetics are fundamentally subjective. FYI.
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2 hours ago, Clueless Northman said:
Lies of Locke Lamora is one of the very rare cases where I actually laughed out loud reading a book - which was startling people since I was in a train. Happened in the early chapter, when Locke arrives to rob an inn and fakes being hit by the plague, so the whole place is evacuated, then looted, then burned down by local security forces.
The boy who steals too much.
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BOOOOOOOKKKKKKSSSSSS!!!!
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On 5/28/2020 at 4:21 PM, Gaston de Foix said:
I feel like the Lies of Locke Lamore would make a decent videogame and Camorr would make a pretty cool setting.
If some jackass suggests finishing the series as a game I’m going to lose my cool. Books. We want to read books.
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1 hour ago, Darth Richard II said:
What’s the second? Or is that sarcasm.
Peace Talks from Jim Butcher’s “Dresden Files”.
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Hope this turns out to be true. It means two long overdue books to be delivered this year.
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5 hours ago, Werthead said:
Scott and his publishers had a meeting at WorldCon in August to go over the MS and put together a release plan, which would be announced at the right time. They haven't announced it yet.
Thank you. That’s better than nothing.
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I've done some googling to see if there is any news on the manuscript that Lynch turned in earlier this year and I've found nothing. I'm hoping someone else's google foo is better than mine. Anyone have news?
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On 8/10/2019 at 11:20 AM, Vaughn said:
Curse you for posting in this thread without new info. You got my hopes up... I'm looking forward to (I think) another non-flashback story. That was the stated plan, right? Every other book reveals past stories through flashback? While I do like the additional info about the past, I'm more interested in the 'main' timeline unfolding.
What's people's interest in the Eldren? I like them as a weird background element, but I don't really care to have it all fully explained. I am assuming that they will become a bigger and bigger plot point given the speech by Patience about why the Bondsmages were disappearing, etc... though.
I also wonder how much time the overall book series will cover. Locke, Jean and Sabetha are what, mid/late 20s? Yet the prophecy about Locke seems to cover a lot of ground. If Lynch stays on plan, there are four more books I believe. I assume Jean and Sabetha survive the series and Locke doesn't, mostly because I can't see him becoming some settled adult with a stable life.
The Eldren, as a fallen (we suppose) technological advanced civilization, are fascinating to me. Their massive constructions with a seemingly artistic bent. I’d love to know more about them.
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Any word on a publication date for The Thorn of Emberlain?
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35 minutes ago, Lord Patrek said:
The ship may just have crashed into the ocean and they had to cross it to reach land. Which would also explain why they have lost so much from the Garden.
I like that hypothesis.
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1 hour ago, Werthead said:
Although still possible, I felt that Witchwood Crown poured some water on that theory with several references to them crossing an actual physical ocean (not the "ocean of stars" mentioned in MS&T) and landing on the eastern coast of Osten Ard. There's also the issue that if it was a spaceship, then where is it? Inside Stormspike, raided for parts millennia ago?
At least Bakker (whom I occasionally muse is Williams' extremely grimdark reflection) was upfront about the spaceship and space alien stuff.
I rather like the vagueness. Were there humans, or other sentient beings, in Osten Ard to witness the arrival of the Ked’ya from, elsewhere, as in Bakker’s series? Is there a frame of reference to perceive “space” or travel from another planet?
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41 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said:
Finished TWC. Fucking loved it. You people are all insane.
Ah yes, I was trying to remember the board member who was so gung ho about that theory. I'm still not sure if I would say other planet but they sure as hell ain't from this one. Could be some inter dimension stuff.
That is possible. However, I believe the mention of “great ships” and “Navigation” suggests space travel.
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2 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said:
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29 minutes ago, kuenjato said:
I'm interested just enough about the Norns to read the third book.
I really don't care much for any of the main characters, though. I can't even remember what Binibik did for the entire novel, other than chase Morgan through the forest. Unver is just a poor man's Kellhus (complete with no POV) and the whole Thrithings subplot felt weak and contrived.
I did like Miri in this book. She's probably the only one of the central cast I'm invested in.
Given the population concentration that appears to be in Nabban I’ve never really understood how Erykenland has managed to maintain political control over Nabban?
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10 minutes ago, kuenjato said:
After more than 20 years of this board, we're still seeing this sort of bullshit response?
You liked the dumpster fire that was Wise Man's Fear and the insanely insecure cry-for-help that was Slow Regard, so I guess I should question your taste on whether the quality of a piece of fiction?
I may seem harsh, but this sort of commentary induces as vacuum in discussion; it is empty, ridiculous, vapid. It would have been flayed in the old days of the board, when there was substantial activity.
Back on topic: Pat, what parts of the novel did work for you? Did you scan the critiques I posted earlier? What was the worst of the slog for you?
I did like TWMF (with the exception of the fairy sex portion of the book) I enjoy Rothfuss’s prose quite a lot.
I also enjoyed EoG. It isn’t a modern “grimdark” novel that pervades much of Fantasy literature but I really enjoyed how Williams has deepened the existing world and how he has (as the review someone posted at the end of the prior thread pointed out) put a big twist on the “happy ending” people complained about at the completion of the prior trilogy.
It’s a good book.
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6 minutes ago, Lord Patrek said:
I finished it yesterday in the park with an iced cappuccino. No pay-off, no resolution, as all the threads end in cliffhangers.
Just happy it's finally over. . .
I have to question your taste. I throughly enjoyed Empire of Grass.
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6 hours ago, Lord Patrek said:
Just skimming this thread because I want to avoid spoilers.
With EoG doing nothing, I left it home and brought the new Wendig (a mistake) and the forthcoming Kameron Hurley short fiction collection with me on my hiking trip in New Hampshire.
Returned home on Monday and resumed reading EoG and it's a slog. I'm about 250 pages into it and I would like to know when does it get better? So far, it suffers from absolutely everything that made TWC such a difficult and often boring read.
I liked the whole thing but Morgan’s story improves significantly when he meets a Sithi.
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8 minutes ago, Ded As Ned said:
I am convinced she's not dead (yet anyway). Remember Joshua in the original trilogy when everyone thought he was dead for so long? I just can't see her going out like that. She gave the ring to the girl so she would be believed when she delivered Miri's message, then she ended up dead and everyone thinks it's Miri when Miri's really still hiking through the bush somewhere. Classic Tad.
Anyway, yes I have always held that the Garden was on a different planet, or perhaps in a different dimension or plane of existence, what have you... and Ruyan teleported them to Osten Ard with his magicks. Doesn't explain how the dragons came along for the ride, however. That has always been the burr in my thinking, because the dragons also were created before unbeing took the Garden. I have no explanation for how they also ended up in Osten Ard.
What about Josua? Is he still lurking somewhere or is he completely out of the picture. Having this search for him produce nothing but wasted effort seems like a poor use of narrative. Either he’s around somewhere, or, his death has some major impact on the story that we don’t know about yet.
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24 minutes ago, Ded As Ned said:
I finished EoG a few days back, so I finally came here to the spoiler thread, only to find there were no spoilers!
Despite the misleading thread title, I came to discuss the story... I really enjoyed the book... although the ending it felt kind of like an odd stopping point. The events in Da'ai Chikiza are unresolved and unless I missed it, we still don't know what is going on there (nevertheless why). Lots of characters converging there only to end the book just before whatever big event is going to happen with the Tinuke'daya (I'm assuming related to the events in Naglimund). Miri's cliffhanger (of course she's still alive)...
I'm still most disappointed in Pasavellas... I really liked him before it turned out to just be the traitorous servant unraveling the kingdom trope... maybe I'll be surprised in the end, but I felt something.... more.... could have been done with that plot line.
Who is the red thing underneath the Hayholt? Pyrate's ghost? Cadrach? I keep trying to remember from tGAT, the blind guy who heard the voices down there that Rachel would feed... could it be him as I don't remember what happened to him?
Maybe I'm in the wrong forum for this
I enjoyed it too. I’m not convinced Miriamele’s fate isn’t sealed. I desperately want to know why the Tinuke’daya are gathering in Aeoldheorte. I have to wonder if they are preparing for another voyage.
Anyone else think the mention of “great years” as reflecting a year in “The Garden” is a clear indication that “the Garden” is another planet, not another destroyed continent?
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5 hours ago, Lord Patrek said:
Great news! Hopefully it will be a return to form for Lynch, because the third volume wasn't that good.
And to think that Scott's book deal with Gollancz stated that a novel was supposed to be released every 9 months or so!
I liked it.
Tolkien 4.0 (A dark and hungry sea lion arises)
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Mr. Moorcock’s opinions of Professor Tolkien are well known, but remain... opinions.