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I agree completely. But until you present evidence that he, HIMSELF, is a threat to living beings then you have no right to call for his muzzling or his incarceration. Obviously it's fucking wrong and gross that he uses his powers and his liberties to spread lies and tear down others. Being the good guys means honoring ideals even when it's hard. This is basic good guy shit. Chamber of Secrets shit.

Why does it matter? Frankly to me it looks like a place for people to pretend to be concerned about someone, throwing 'mental health' buzzwords around like prescriptive garnish. I've seen grave robbings that were less cynical than you people and twice as honest about what they came for.

So Ye is an insane danger to himself and others, he should be deprived his basic freedoms because of this, including the ability to say what he wants to say. But also make sure you call him Ye or ye may be a jerk. [Just trying to keep my How to Be a Properly Braindead, but still Reactive to Percieved Injustices, Liberal notes coherent] But I'm the condescening asshole, eh?

Repression is not a cure

So you're catching on, eh? Good. If you identify an enemy KILL IT But until you define said enemy and declare your intentions towards them (war), shut the fuck up you whaaa whaaaa assclowns. How long are you people going to outsource your collective powers to the "centrist" billionaire, shareholders, and lobbying groups? How long are you going to use the platforms THEY LET YOU HAVE and THEY CONTROL to whine about the rich and the nazis, but OOoonly under their supervision. You halfwits lost your twitter and it turned you to quarterwits overnight.

I mean I'll vote to have the NSA get an address on every Twitter user still operating and then we can stone them to death before local highschool theater productions. I'm good with it. Finally putting the NSA to a useful use is enough justification for me to commit socialized slaughter. It'll be fun. But you people lack the stomach to fight your masters, so all this is just whiny depressturbation

No, but now the rocks are rolled over and you see the creepers clearly. Clearly all the moderation in the world didn't cure people of being scumbags, it just made them adept at hiding it. If the truth disgusts you then confront it; if twitter is so important to you folks get back on it and fight for your forum But if it's not worth it now that teams of techs aren't sweeping the code keeping the Nazis away maybe it was never worth all your energies anyways Eta:grammar

That could be the national motto of America

I don't disagree at all. But is it illegal???

If there are ways to conclude culpability for organized violence I am absolutely sure you know more about it than I do. If Mr. West commits a crime then charge him with it. I will still argue against putting a person in a cage but that's truly a seperate issue. I never thought I'd have to defend a Tolkien quote on renunciation to you of all people. I agree, Mr. West shouldn't be invited to good company or quality, informative, programming. If I saw him on my TV I would probably change the channel. It is not in my powers, nor should it be, to stop Kanye from ranting as he wishes where he wishes however.

Nah baby. The world is the best you can make it every day. There will always be assholes. Nazis. Clansmen. Incels. Xphobes, Yphobes and Zphobes are never going away. Some folks are just ugly. It looks like Kanye is one of them. Not ugly like Harvey Winestein, not all of 'em, but ugly on the inside. Where it matters. It's okay. Kanye is just a guy. Maybe he will change. I hope so. But he deserves the chance to find his own way out of megalomania for as long as he isn't actually harming people. And I'm allowed to think he's a conspiracy addled asshole. "Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."

I'm not telling you not to tell Kanye he's an idiot, or not even to not shout him down. I am objecting to suggestions that governmental/medical systems be used to take satisfaction from people who have spoken displeasingly.

What!?! I rely on you guys for this, did Kanye really tweet that? And if that is real, wouldn't you rather know that Kanye is a fucking fuckboi nazi loving piece of shit rather than listen along in ignorance? Posting a bashit swastika symbol doesn't cause harm. It reveals a pathetic, enabled, exploiter for who he really is. I'm glad Kanye went on Alex Jones or whatever and felt empowered to show us all who he really is. And yeah, it sucks for anybody who just found out they jammed to a dude who doesn't like them, but dawg that stomach punch is the entry cost for knowing the truth: Kanye is a crazy motherfucker, he ain't no hero and you don't wanna be like him. The More You Know !

Donald Trump is a traitor. A self-declared enemy of American democractic traditions. He should hang from the looped end of a rope until he's dead; naymore until his remains disintigrate on the fucking wind. Donald Trump is an American citizen. He should never have been deprived of his access to what -you people- obviously see as a public utility (twitter). A tool of his free speech. (Twitter as a private company can enforce its own rules, but you folks reacted to Musk changing those rules as if he was changing the laws of nature so I'm treating twitter like the 'public square' [setting aside the entirely seperate issue of a private company being able to selectively deny services to public figures]). Donald Trump is a human being. I would fight adamantly that if you do not believe he should die for his crimes then you have no right to put him in a cage forever. All can be true.

The stuff I've seen y'all talking about here? Yeah. I'm that free speech. If you never wanna listen to his music again because he's obviously a scumbag then I say good on you. If you wanna cancel your deals with him I say you're responding to market trends. If you say he should be apprehended or muzzled then you put me in the repellent position of having to defend Kanye fucking West. A man I have accused of entering into a marriage compact and fathering a child as part of a marketing pun

Free speech follies draw me. What a contemptable creature I am for it.

For Kanye? Ignore him. It's fucking saaad, that he's going in with that crowd, but he hasn't done anything illegal that I'm aware of. I mean he's Kanye West, a billionaire, those people commit felonies in-between every breath. But as to a man may speak as he wishes? My answer is always that he may speak as he wishes.

That happened. There was a SHOCKING amount of groupthink momentum towards concluding that 'trial by peers' is a BAD thing all along. I noted the fucking idiocy of the atmosphere at the time, as I do now, and I will not apologize for it.

The fascist right is engaged in an explicit years-old campaign against the systems I was born with stake in. I am not trolling or talking tall when I say that I consider it my duty: and the duty of all good citizens: to do them harm. I would not look to put Donald Trump in a cage, however. His sturmabteilung and I would find some similar ground in the usefullness of a gallows, then. Both can be true. Kanye is a deranged fool with a lot of talent; he is not the person you people should be focused on

I do not believe in putting humans in cages under almost any circumstance. If someone is such a danger that you need to reduce them to animalism then there is a much cheaper and more practical treatment option available. You people don't want Kanye West admitted so he can be 'cured' You want him punished for his aberrative behaviors. You want to feel virtue at this man whose power supercedes your own actually having to face a consequence for his actions. You want it soooo bad that you're (group accusation, not specific to an individual) chippering for the state to decide from Youtube clips whether a person is or is not fit for society. I mean I get it. Dude makes bumpin (let's not pretend it was more than bumpin ok? Dude was so overrated. He was real real fucking good, but he was not all that) music but he's obviously a fucking imbicile, normally I'd say fuck him. It's just that you folks are so reactive. It shocks and, in turn, makes me reactive. My appalled reaction is the same as when I saw (some of you same characters) talking about how we gotta get rid of jury trials because the Depp v Heard debacle didn't calamatize just the way you wanted.

I am appalled by the casual tossing about of discussion to the effect of depriving a man his liberties just because he said something you didn't like. Being an anti-semetic is stupid and hurtful. The suggestion that it be commit-able is insane. You're suggesting reeducation centers by way of rehabilative insane asylums. Do you really want Ron DeSantis' government to be able to decide which public utterances make you a danger?

Actually it's the Diamond Thunderbolt of liberation. Signifying great and sudden change. Sorry for the error.

Dorje. Lightning bolt of liberation, I believe.

I'd drink the bullet out of that prop gun.

Love that song.