Kaguya Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I understand it now but i wish they added some hints in there that suggested that was her motive. Watching it the first time i just thought it was the directors taking pity on Cersei again. It appears i wasn't the only one either. http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/05/05/game-of-thrones-cersei-lannister-more-sympathetic-first-of-his-name/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaguya Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Um, no. Cersei was, and is indeed whitewashed. In the show, she never tries to have Robert's bastards killed (It doesn't even make sense why Joffrey would care about Robert's bastards), she never sent Mandon Moore after Tyrion, she's far nicer to Sansa, she says she's shocked by what Joffrey did, and her relationship with Tyrion is less antagonistic. But to be fair, Tyrion is also whitewashed, and Joffrey was made a lot more evil (I personally dislike both changes). +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadwood Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Um, no. Cersei was, and is indeed whitewashed. In the show, she never tries to have Robert's bastards killed (It doesn't even make sense why Joffrey would care about Robert's bastards), she never sent Mandon Moore after Tyrion, Cersei was behind it in the books? That is definite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Zee Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Um, no. Cersei was, and is indeed whitewashed. In the show, she never tries to have Robert's bastards killed (It doesn't even make sense why Joffrey would care about Robert's bastards), she never sent Mandon Moore after Tyrion, Really ? seems to me Cersei never denied those accusations, just stayed silent and let Tyrion draw his own conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I am LOVING TV Cersei SO MUCH. But wait! The craziness will come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadwood Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Really ? seems to me Cersei never denied those accusations, just stayed silent and let Tyrion draw his own conclusions. That's what I thought. Seems the producers confirm certain things that are only hinted at in the books, due to the nature of the medium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaguya Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Really ? seems to me Cersei never denied those accusations, just stayed silent and let Tyrion draw his own conclusions She said that 'Joffrey did what needed to be done' in regards to the bastards. And the producers said they changed the scene and gave the crime to Joffrey (stupid right?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Pay Our Debts Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Cersei was behind it in the books? That is definite? Neither are confirmed in the books. With the bastard killing, it makes sense for Cersei to be behind it, and I don't see how anyone else would benefit from it. People argue that she never talks about either actions in her POV, but she also never mentions other important actions from aGoT to aSoS, such as Tyrion's threat towards Tommen, and his assault of her during the same scene. Her involvement with Ser Mandon Moore's attempt on Tyrion's life during the Battle of Blackwater is more vague, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixFlame Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 I loved Cersei's scenes last episode! To me she was using kernels of real emotion as playing cards. If you're being manipulative, it's easier to sound sincere when they're a little truth mixed in. Also, Tyrion's death seems to be the one thing she'll swallow her pride and play nice to accomplish. When she played the "dutiful lady," Tywin even opened up to her about the realm's finances and Oberyn and Margaery seemed unsure of what to do. If she'd gone that route way earlier, maybe she could've manipulated her way into much more authority. This isn't a "the story shoulda been written different" comment, just an observation how Cersei, as a person, really wasted and misused her potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 I loved Cersei's scenes last episode! To me she was using kernels of real emotion as playing cards. If you're being manipulative, it's easier to sound sincere when they're a little truth mixed in. Also, Tyrion's death seems to be the one thing she'll swallow her pride and play nice to accomplish. When she played the "dutiful lady," Tywin even opened up to her about the realm's finances and Oberyn and Margaery seemed unsure of what to do. If she'd gone that route way earlier, maybe she could've manipulated her way into much more authority. This isn't a "the story shoulda been written different" comment, just an observation how Cersei, as a person, really wasted and misused her potential. I definitely agree, of course Cersei has her stupid moments but I like this idea of showing some low cunning as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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