Datepalm Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arakan Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 War to the palaces, peace to the cottages.. or something. Bolshevik bullshit. I am more curious about the two headed byzantine monster.Broken one, you *** UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!"bolshevik bullshit"? Georg Büchner? The man after whom Germany's most important literary price is named?What are you, some far-right polnish ultra-nationalist? I expect a public apology in this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horza Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Carry on. A pretty gloomy note to start your national anthem on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprincethatwasntpromised Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 What the hell is happening in here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 A pretty gloomy note to start your national anthem on. I've always thought Ukraine has a particularly keen self-awareness as a nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghjhero Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Less Germany more Ukraine/Russi please. Can someone translate the tread title for me please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghjhero Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 More evidence the Russians don't like us: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5656732?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altherion Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Can someone translate the tread title for me please? It's the beginning of the Ukrainian national anthem. The literal translation of the first line is "Ukraine has not yet died." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Sansa Stark Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I can hardly believe it was only last year when I walked Kiev's streets and played the happy tourist at Maidan. How did it even get this far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Russia, as expected, is hitting back as the situation turns on them. Beyond just massing "peacekeeping" forces on the border and asking the UN to let them "do a humanitarian intervention", they are also sanctioning Europe back:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28680656 Russian President Vladimir Putin has banned or curbed agricultural imports from countries imposing sanctions on Russia over the crisis in Ukraine. In a decree (Russian text), he ordered the measures, which also apply to food imports, to be introduced for one year. Meanwhile, renewed fighting in eastern Ukraine has forced the suspension of a search for the remains of the victims of crashed flight MH17. Russian news agency RIA Novosti quoted an official from the country's agricultural and veterinary watchdog as saying that the new sanctions would apply to all agricultural products imported from the US. "Fruits and vegetables from the European Union will also be under full ban," the official, Alexey Alekseenko, is quoted as saying. Russia buys fruit and vegetables from the EU worth an annual 2bn euros (£1.6bn; $2.7bn), and food and agricultural products from the US worth about 1bn euros. Last week Russia banned most agricultural imports from Poland on grounds of public health in what was seen as a thinly veiled retaliation for Poland's advocacy of tough action over Ukraine. Plus this craziness:http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/08/07/russia-blocks-agricultural-imports-from-western-countries-in-response-to/Medvedev also said that Russia is considering banning Western carriers from flying over Russia on flights to and from Asia -- a move that would significantly swell costs and increase flight time. He said the decision on that hasn't been made yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 And also good old Russian media censorship:http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28583669 A new law imposing restrictions on users of social media has come into effect in Russia. It means bloggers with more than 3,000 daily readers must register with the mass media regulator, Roskomnadzor, and conform to the regulations that govern the country's larger media outlets. Internet companies will also be required to allow Russian authorities access to users' information. One human rights group called the move "draconian". The law was approved by Russia's upper house of parliament in April. It includes measures to ensure that bloggers cannot remain anonymous, and states that social networks must maintain six months of data on its users. The information must be stored on servers based in Russian territory, so that government authorities can gain access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Sansa Stark Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 And also good old Russian media censorship: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28583669 Well, I'm not saying that western countries can't be scary, but Russia is one heck of a scary state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arakan Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Plus this craziness:http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/08/07/russia-blocks-agricultural-imports-from-western-countries-in-response-to/Come on Shryke, let's get real now. (Potential) sanctions always work both ways. I see no "craziness". We hurt them, they hurt us.It's easy for Americans as their economic interests are virtually non-existent in that region. If things further escalate wrt to sanctions I expect that the Europeans are pushing for a solution. The UK and Germany have the most to lose so they should eventually take the lead within EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Come on Shryke, let's get real now. (Potential) sanctions always work both ways. I see no "craziness". We hurt them, they hurt us.It's easy for Americans as their economic interests are virtually non-existent in that region. If things further escalate wrt to sanctions I expect that the Europeans are pushing for a solution. The UK and Germany have the most to lose so they should eventually take the lead within EU. No, this is craziness. Blocking air traffic over Russia is nuts. The rest is what you expect from Russia and likely to hurt them quite a bit considering they import alot of food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 Shryke is right*. This is bizarre. In Soviet Russia, you sanction world. Russia can have some economic impact on Europe, etc by ceasing imports...but it's going to screw itself a lot harder doing the exact same thing. Apparently Soviet nostalgia extends to needing to queue for food? *Like a broken clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Sansa Stark Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Well, I heard Brazil was all happy about the boycot, as it could hugely benefit their economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istakhr Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 This is so bizarre, did Putin just decide to take Russia into hunger strike? There is a reason europeans didn't start by sanctioning oil and gas imports from Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horza Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 There are provisions in the bill to prevent price rises by importing limited amounts of hostile foreign cheese, so it's not a total ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Sansa Stark Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 This is so bizarre, did Putin just decide to take Russia into hunger strike? There is a reason europeans didn't start by sanctioning oil and gas imports from Russia. I'm sure other countries are more than willing to export food to Russia. Still, these sanctions will be hitting them hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 The sanctions are already hitting their economy really bad. And other countries may be willing, but they'll charge more. Just like the Chinese with the gas, they know who's coming begging to whom. This is so bizarre, did Putin just decide to take Russia into hunger strike? There is a reason europeans didn't start by sanctioning oil and gas imports from Russia. Putin can't/won't back down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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