A_Prince_of_Dorne Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I made a video on the topic of the gods in A Song of Ice and Fire. Check it out! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT9KMI_6cM8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 None of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gertrude Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Did you watch the video? That's his conclusion too. I agree, there are no gods, just magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I can't watch the video at the moment, I was just responding to the title question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Joe the Unknighted Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I'm not entirely convinced that none of them are real. Some might be real entities and whether or not they are gods would be up to interpretation. Is a Greenseer who can see the past present and future at will and control animals and speak and act through the animals and trees not a god? There are other strange and powerful beings in the world. There is something weird with the mysterious black stone structures in Lorath, Yi Ti, and other places (maybe the sea stone chair) The tunnels below Leng? If there are two mighty forces in the world that must be balanced (Fire and Ice) but the Red Priests personify them as gods are they not real? There may be no all powerful beings, but there are some powerful beings/forces on Planetos that are not fully explained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Prince_of_Dorne Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 I'm not entirely convinced that none of them are real. Some might be real entities and whether or not they are gods would be up to interpretation. Is a Greenseer who can see the past present and future at will and control animals and speak and act through the animals and trees not a god? There are other strange and powerful beings in the world. There is something weird with the mysterious black stone structures in Lorath, Yi Ti, and other places (maybe the sea stone chair) The tunnels below Leng? If there are two mighty forces in the world that must be balanced (Fire and Ice) but the Red Priests personify them as gods are they not real? There may be no all powerful beings, but there are some powerful beings/forces on Planetos that are not fully explained. I would argue that it wouldn't make them "gods" persay, but I hear you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reginald blackfield Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I think the Great Other is real but he may not be a god, the Others need a leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrorVoid Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Word of God: I'll make sure that you wouldn't be able to say for sure if the gods exist or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Like Martin stated in an interview: it is up to the readers to wonder about the validity of the various religions. Look at the real world analogue: we have many religions as well. Can anyone honestly say that some religions are more "real" than others? I think not and the same holds true for ASoIaF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elm Tree Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I'd say everyone has their own reality; for some the Christen god is real and for some it's Allah. Same goes for Westerosi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northbound3.0 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I refer you to the pirate Salladhor Saan and his theological opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword of the Morgan Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I'm essentially an atheist in real life, so naturally I'm tempted to be the same in ASoIAF. However, if I saw Thoros revive Beric I would seriously consider the validity of the Lord of Light. It's trickier, though, in a world where magic is present. It's a tough call. I don't think the Seven are real at all; those seem like totally man-made deities. The old gods don't appear to be "gods" by definition either. I think the most likely one to exist is the Red God, though it's possible the Drowned God exists as well, though we have little "evidence" for that aside from maybe Patchface, though that is certainly questionable as well. Storm God and Great Other sound like they were invented to play as counterparts to the Red God and Drowned God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Blackfyre Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 1) Which ones you would like to be real? The Lord of Harmony from Naath. The Great Shephard of the Lhazareen. And perhaps the gods of the Summer Isles. 2) Which one do we know is real for Westeros? The only god who we know is real for the ASOIAF world is GRRM. And Natalia Tena. She's a goddess who used her power of bewitchment to make her metafictional avatar in-world younger... and she's a good singer too. ;) 3) Joking aside, are the main gods real? Not until ASOIAF goes into public domain in 2140. Then everything is fair game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrorVoid Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I'd say everyone has their own reality; for some the Christen god is real and for some it's Allah. Same goes for Westerosi. But Allah and Jenovah are one god o_O It is canon o_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 But Allah and Jenovah are one god o_O It is canon o_OJehowah↑ Some say they are the same, others don't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrorVoid Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Some say they are the same, others don't... Well, if they use same prophets to create the same ideas, and basically every holy man exists in each others holy books, I doubt there is any person that think they are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northbound3.0 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Well this thread is about to go off the rails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrorVoid Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Well this thread is about to go off the rails. Nah, it would just be pretty fun, if, for example, The Seven are actually 7 aspects of R'Hlorr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Prince_of_Dorne Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 2) Which one do we know is real for Westeros? The only god who we know is real for the ASOIAF world is GRRM. And Natalia Tena. She's a goddess who used her power of bewitchment to make her metafictional avatar in-world younger... and she's a good singer too. ;) Me and my paramour do love us some Natalia Tena ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Pounce FTW Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Which Gods Are Real?All of them. And none of them. Just like in rl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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