kissdbyfire Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 (edited) My apologies. You mean it's illegal to show an underage actress playing a sex scene?Not only that, but it's illegal to show an underage character having sex on TV/film. And what's underage went from 16 to 18 a few years ago, if I'm not mistaken. Edited May 24, 2015 by kissdbyfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Boner Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Not only that, but it's illegal to show an underage character having sex on TV/film. And what's underage went from 16 to 18 a few years ago, if I'm not mistaken. I really don't think that's the case. Otherwise GoT couldn't have been shown on UK tv. Which it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 (edited) I really don't think that's the case. Otherwise GoT couldn't have been shown on UK tv. Which it is.What do you mean? For instance, Dany was aged for that very reason. Edited May 24, 2015 by kissdbyfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Didn't they just portray the after-sex? Many tv shows get away with it by showing only the moments before or the moments after. I know because I used to watch a lot of teen drama on tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Boner Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 What do you mean? For instance, Dany was aged for that very reason. She was younger than 18 wasn't she? I honestly can't remember how old show Dany was supposed to be when she was married to Khal Drogo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Didn't they just portray the after-sex? Many tv shows get away with it by showing only the moments before or the moments after. I know because I used to watch a lot of teen drama on tv.Yeah, they do that a lot.She was younger than 18 wasn't she? I honestly can't remember how old show Dany was supposed to be when she was married to Khal Drogo.I honestly don't remember. I also don't remember when it changed from 16 to 18... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Damian Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 What do you mean? For instance, Dany was aged for that very reason. I remember GRRM in an interview that Dany was 17 in season one (was youngest a character in the US could be to have simulated sex on tv but the actress playing the 17 year old had to be atleast 5 years older) Emilia Clarke was 22 years old when season one was filmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I remember GRRM in an interview that Dany was 17 in season one (was youngest a character in the US could be to have simulated sex on tv but the actress playing the 17 year old had to be atleast 5 years older) Emilia Clarke was 22 years old when season one was filmed.Not the US, the UK, but yeah, Dany was aged from 13 to 16-17, something like that. I've never heard of the actor having to be at least 5 years older than the character though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Damian Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Not the US, the UK, but yeah, Dany was aged from 13 to 16-17, something like that. I've never heard of the actor having to be at least 5 years older than the character though... ok the uk. has the law not changes since 2011, like in 2013? How is the law today? does anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 (edited) Even if Tommen had been 20, he was shown being naive about sex (and everything else). He has just learned how the thing works. It might not be that for the characters but for us the audience, it's abuse. Because Margaery knows this very well, that's how they have portrayed: as being sexually manipulative. She doesn't care for him. She just want to win him over Cersei. Margaery in the books does the same but she gives him something that Cersei can also give him but refuses: confidence. That's why Tommen likes her, because while he's just Joffrey's replacement, Marg doesn't treat him like that, whether she's honest or not. By the time Tommen is a grown man he will remember that his mother kept him away from the world while Margaery told him "you can do things on your own!". By the time he's mature enough to lust for Margaery and want her sexually he will also want her because she's a good person and they can bond for real. Show Tommen is like a kid with a new toy, and if, eventually, a girl that can give him sex also appear, he even might put Margaery away. So, Margaery's plan is also a bit flawed. He can expect a kid to be in love with him for just sex because one day, that kid is going to grow up with the power of being able to have ANY girl. Edited May 24, 2015 by JonCon's Red Beard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Damian Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Even if Tommen had been 20, he was shown being naive about sex (and everything else). He has just learned how the thing works. It might not be that for the characters but for us the audience, it's abuse. Because Margaery knows this very well, that's how they have portrayed: as being sexually manipulative. She doesn't care for him. She just want to win him over Cersei. Margaery in the books does the same but she gives him something that Cersei can also give him but refuses: confidence. That's why Tommen likes him, because while he's just Joffrey's replacement, Marg doesn't treat him like that, whether she's honest or not. By the time Tommen is a grown man he will remember that his mother kept him away from the world while Margaery told him "you can do things on your own!". By the time he's mature enough to lust for Margaery and want her sexually he will also want her because she's a good person and they can bond for real. Show Tommen is like a kid with a new toy, and if, eventually, a girl that can give him sex also appear, he even might put Margaery away. So, Margaery's plan is also a bit flawed. He can expect a kid to be in love with him for just sex because one day, that kid is going to grow up with the power of being able to have ANY girl. Not that this has any bearing, Show Margeary seems much more experienced than a woman who supposedly never had sex. She was supposed to be a maid on the show? Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 ok the uk. has the law not changes since 2011, like in 2013? How is the law today? does anyone know?I'm not sure when it changed, I think it was some 10 years ago but I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Not that this has any bearing, Show Margeary seems much more experienced than a woman who supposedly never had sex. She was supposed to be a maid on the show? Right? Well, we don't know if she ever consummates with Renly. In books, it's very likely she did (Renly was not an idiot and there was no reason for them to not have sex at all). She might have even had sex with him as well, even if the sex was terrible and awkward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Boner Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 (edited) So, Margaery's plan is also a bit flawed. He can expect a kid to be in love with him for just sex because one day, that kid is going to grow up with the power of being able to have ANY girl. That's why the priority for any new queen is to get pregnant as soon as possible. The King can have anyone he likes but as long as you carry his child and heir he won't put you aside. Edited May 24, 2015 by Khal Boner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Not that this has any bearing, Show Margeary seems much more experienced than a woman who supposedly never had sex. She was supposed to be a maid on the show? Right?I don't think it's spelled out either way, but it's heavily hinted that she has experience. Remember her chat with Sansa about her impending marriage to Tyrion? There were other scenes too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Not that this has any bearing, Show Margeary seems much more experienced than a woman who supposedly never had sex. She was supposed to be a maid on the show? Right? Well, we don't know if she ever consummates with Renly. In books, it's very likely she did (Renly was not an idiot and there was no reason for them to not have sex at all). She might have even had sex with him as well, even if the sex was terrible and awkward or she might have even had sex before and Renly didn't know (not that a straight guy could have known, anyway). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 That's why the priority for any new queen is to get pregnant as soon as possible. The King can have anyone he likes but as long as you carry his child and heir he won't put you aside. There is many ways to put a woman aside despite she has given the King heirs. It's not unknown that mistress and courtesans in many courts end up having a lot of power. The Queens are useful for their fertility. After they have give birth and heir and a spare, they can go away "by accident" and the King can remarry someone more convenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Damian Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I think it hillarious that Natalie Dormer is 33 years old playing a what? supposed 18 year old or 17 year old on the show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitttenGuard Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I think it hillarious that Natalie Dormer is 33 years old playing a what? supposed 18 year old or 17 year old on the show?Marg on the show is around early to mid 20s. Joffrey was 17 by S2 and she is to be older than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I think it hillarious that Natalie Dormer is 33 years old playing a what? supposed 18 year old or 17 year old on the show?I think Marg is supposed to be in her mid-twenties n the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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