tormund's beard Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 mormont didn't stole anything he left the sword to jorah, jorah was exiled leave the sword behind and jeor's sister send the sword to the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOVMO Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 1 minute ago, Cas Stark said: Who commanded Sam to steal his father's ancestral sword? Sam, please leave castle black with your wildling girlfriend and go become a maester. On the way, please steal the priceless sword that has been passed down to the lords of horn hill for 500 years. --Jon (presumably) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vastet Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Sam is boning a wildling. Most of the NW boned girls in Molestown. So irrelevant. Sam just stole the birthright of his house. Made no oath to not take what was his, no oathbreaking. Sam is starting a family. Conjecture. We don't know how this will end up. He's taking care of two people who need him, as commanded to. No oathbreaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vastet Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Who commanded Sam to steal his father's ancestral sword? Strawman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tormund's beard Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 well i can't talk to someone who is just trolling or refusing to listen to reason... SAM RENOUNCED TO ANY BIRTHRIGHTS OR TIES HE HAD BEFORE THE WATCH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vastet Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 mormont didn't stole anything he left the sword to jorah, jorah was exiled leave the sword behind and jeor's sister send the sword to the wall. By keeping it and not sending it back Mormont is as guilty as Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vastet Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 well i can't talk to someone who is just trolling or refusing to listen to reason... SAM RENOUNCED TO ANY BIRTHRIGHTS OR TIES HE HAD BEFORE THE WATCH. Correction: you can't argue against fact so you start calling me names and throw a tantrum like a 6 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOVMO Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Just now, Vastet said: Most of the NW boned girls in Molestown. So irrelevant. Just now, Vastet said: Yes, ok. But he isn't doing a quick in an out with a whore...he has a girlfriend. Just now, Vastet said: Made no oath to not take what was his, no oathbreaking. Are you nuts dude this is the oath that Sam took: Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come." That whole thing about holding no lands, wearing no crowns and winning no glory was the very moment he gave up his right to Horn Hill, Heartsbane and having a family, Just now, Vastet said: Conjecture. We don't know how this will end up. He's taking care of two people who need him, as commanded to. No oathbreaking. He told the lord commander of the nights watch he was screwing her. The LC said the maesters would make him swear off women and he literally laughed in his face and said id like to see them try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tormund's beard Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, Vastet said: By keeping it and not sending it back Mormont is as guilty as Sam. what part of HIS SISTER SEND THE SWORD TO HIM you can't understand, she didn't have the obligation she wanted to send jeor the sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOVMO Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Just now, tormund's beard said: what part of HIS SISTER SEND THE SWORD TO HIM you can't understand, she didn't have the obligation she wanted to send jeor the sword. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vastet Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 That whole thing about holding no lands, wearing no crowns and winning no glory was the very moment he gave up his right to Horn Hill, Heartsbane and having a family, Absolutely no mention of swords or other personal belongings = you fail. He told the lord commander of the nights watch he was screwing her. A LC who was explicitly told by the previous LC that if the NW executed every man who took off for a night that the wall would be manned only by ghosts. = you fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vastet Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 what part of HIS SISTER SEND THE SWORD TO HIM you can't understand, she didn't have the obligation she wanted to send jeor the sword. What part of renouncing birthright do YOU not understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOVMO Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 How is it possible that anyone voted this episode higher than 2 and even 2 is a stretch. Just horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tormund's beard Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 frack this my watch has ended... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstream Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 16 minutes ago, Vastet said: Absolutely none of which counters my point. Actually, it undeniably renders your entire statement as false. And I would love to see you support your statement that handing down a family heirloom is the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOVMO Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 1 minute ago, tormund's beard said: frack this my watch has ended... up. lets go to my dads house, make some creepy veiled incest jokes at the table, rob his priceless family heirloom and then heat to the citadel so I can take more vows I won't care. Really, this couldn't have been more poorly conceived if Hodor wrote the show....post death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOVMO Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Just now, Darkstream said: Actually, it undeniably renders your entire statement as false. And I would love to see you support your statement that handing down a family heirloom is the law. Right. Isn't Brienne walking around with 70% of ice? Also, what about arthur dayne the swords or the morning. I am pretty sure dawn just sticks around until someone else is qualified to wield it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOVMO Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 6 minutes ago, Vastet said: What part of renouncing birthright do YOU not understand? I've never seen someone argue both sides of an argument and somehow manage to be wrong on both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstream Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 5 minutes ago, YOVMO said: I've never seen someone argue both sides of an argument and somehow manage to be wrong on both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vastet Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Actually, it undeniably renders your entire statement as false. Not even remotely. And I would love to see you support your statement that handing down a family heirloom is the law. "A man's eldest son is his heir" http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Customs I've never seen someone argue both sides of an argument and somehow manage to be wrong on both. Amazing how you ended up being that very person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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