all swedes are racist Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 17 minutes ago, Pony Queen Jace said: Why are we doing this to ourselves?  haven't yet reached the point in the metaphor where we wake up in a bed thats not ours, with a pounding headache and a burning sensation when we piss  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, r'hllor's dirtbag lobster said:  haven't yet reached the point in the metaphor where we wake up in a bed thats not ours, with a pounding headache and a burning sensation when we piss  I don't get it, is the tweet a joke? I'm not very tuned in to... much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 It's not accurate. She's still well below Obama in 2008. And trump did not get less than 20% of the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Kalbear said: It's not accurate. She's still well below Obama in 2008. And trump did not get less than 20% of the vote. Yeah, I wondered if I was missing the joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brandon Stark Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 12 minutes ago, Pony Queen Jace said: Yeah, I wondered if I was missing the joke. Time to realize that Trump is the President Elect and crushed the Electoral College. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, The Brandon Stark said: Time to realize that Trump is the President Elect and crushed the Electoral College. Incredibly poignant political commentary there. You should write for the Inquirer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brandon Stark Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, Pony Queen Jace said: Incredibly poignant political commentary there. You should write for the Inquirer. Are you claiming he didn't? Sorry but facts are actually real news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitttenGuard Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 17 minutes ago, Kalbear said: It's not accurate. She's still well below Obama in 2008. And trump did not get less than 20% of the vote. It did not say 20% of the vote it said 20% of Americans. Â It is semantically and in the end Hillary would not of gotten much above 20% herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, The Brandon Stark said: Are you claiming he didn't? Sorry but facts are actually real news. Real news!?! Oh my! How will I ever remember my facts and figures now!?! Get real, I'm made of steel. Hi girls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felice Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 19 minutes ago, Kalbear said: And trump did not get less than 20% of the vote. He was voted for by less than 20% of the population, though. But then, so was Hillary. Even if you exclude children, it's still a pretty dismal excuse for a mandate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brandon Stark Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 8 minutes ago, Pony Queen Jace said: Real news!?! Oh my! How will I ever remember my facts and figures now!?! Get real, I'm made of steel. Hi girls! Hi Girls! Thanks for getting elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, The Brandon Stark said: Hi Girls! Thanks for getting elected. What were we going on about? I wouldn't say 'crushed' the EC. But he did win, handily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brandon Stark Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, Pony Queen Jace said: What were we going on about? I wouldn't say 'crushed' the EC. But he did win, handily. Cool. I hate fighting. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 5 minutes ago, The Brandon Stark said: Cool. I hate fighting. LOL So as what I must assume is a Trump voter, would you be interested in using this platform to detail your beliefs and motives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altherion Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 41 minutes ago, felice said: He was voted for by less than 20% of the population, though. But then, so was Hillary. Even if you exclude children, it's still a pretty dismal excuse for a mandate. The turnout currently stands at about 55% so Trump got about 25% of all eligible voters and Clinton got about 26% of them. It should go up a bit (I've seen numbers as high as 58%) in which case their numbers will go up by about half of the increase which means that neither of them will exceed 30%. However, this is a silly way to determine whether somebody has a mandate because, as far as I can tell, nobody has ever gotten more than 50% since the popular votes first started being counted. Since the beginning of the 20th century, even 40% is unheard of. For example, Obama's 2008 victory (which was justifiably described as overwhelming) only rated at about 33%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felice Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 40 minutes ago, Altherion said: However, this is a silly way to determine whether somebody has a mandate because, as far as I can tell, nobody has ever gotten more than 50% since the popular votes first started being counted. Since the beginning of the 20th century, even 40% is unheard of. For example, Obama's 2008 victory (which was justifiably described as overwhelming) only rated at about 33%. But surely such an appallingly low turnout is an indication that something is terribly wrong with American democracy? The electoral college is obviously part of the problem (though it doesn't need to be abolished to improve turnout; having all states split their electors proportionately to the number of votes for each candidate instead of winner-takes-all would do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo498 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Why turnout has been so low in the "motherland of modern democracy" and in an election that was (maybe not unfoundedly so) hyped as decisive is also a puzzle for me. Of course the idiotic system probably leads to low turnout in states that are not swing states. Then there were many people who disliked both candidates immensely. But if the system cannot be fixed (because the majorities for that would be impossible right now because the low population states benefitting from the status quo would never agree to change it), the US probably has to live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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