Bonkers Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 On 09/01/2017 at 10:59 AM, Lifestream said: Decided to check their videos, but they hardly had any theories I'm interested in. Mostly Jon Snow parentage and then videos about R+L, kinda boring. Thought I'd give a try to the most recent one regarding Catelyn, but I couldn't take it seriously after "Catelyn is the worst person that's ever lived". Maybe you have a different Youtube theorist(s) who's less biased and has a variety of theories that don't focus solely on Jon Snow? Yeh. As I mentioned, they are very new. I am am looking forward to them going deeper into what they have already presented. I guess I just love hearing new ideas thrown out there that make me want to reread and make my own conclusions too. For example, I haven't read it anyewhere, but I want to delve deeper into the Littlefinger, Ollena Tyrell, Doran and Oberyn plot idea. LF was in Dorne between going from KL to then collecting Sansa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifestream Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 5 hours ago, Bonkers said: Yeh. As I mentioned, they are very new. I am am looking forward to them going deeper into what they have already presented. I guess I just love hearing new ideas thrown out there that make me want to reread and make my own conclusions too. For example, I haven't read it anyewhere, but I want to delve deeper into the Littlefinger, Ollena Tyrell, Doran and Oberyn plot idea. LF was in Dorne between going from KL to then collecting Sansa. I haven't heard that either, does it make any sense chronologically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolbeard the Exile Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 The three Kingsguard Oswell Whent, Gerold Hightower and Arthur Dayne didn't die at the tower of Joy and disguised themselves as Oswell Whent=Qhorin halfhand, Gerold Hightower=Thormund Giantsbane and Arthur Dayne=Mance Rayder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers Posted January 19, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2017 18 hours ago, Lifestream said: I haven't heard that either, does it make any sense chronologically? yep...check out my post on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Man Racey Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 6 hours ago, Bonkers said: yep...check out my post on it And where is that? I don't see any threads posted by you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 It is called "Littlefinger, Doran, Olenna....and Oberyn plot?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuvuuia Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 On 07.01.2017 at 8:18 PM, Jon's Queen Consort said: ALSO, ALSO WTF THEY DID TO VAL? How on GRRTH Val is Allyria, Ned’s daughter and Jon’s twin? ok, i'm genuinely curious, then who is the Allyria in Dorne, who Edric thinks is his aunt and Beric was going to marry? Is she an imposter or they have the same name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 On 26/1/2017 at 4:14 PM, Shuvuuia said: ok, i'm genuinely curious, then who is the Allyria in Dorne, who Edric thinks is his aunt and Beric was going to marry? Is she an imposter or they have the same name? Allyria Dayne is Allyria SnowSand, the daughter of Ashara and Ned. Not Val and Jon's twin sister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Commentator Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 9:47 PM, Bonkers said: There is a relatively small/new YouTube channel I just discovered (I have nothing to do with it, nor do I know these people) that has some excellent vids on some book only stuff....seriously good theories I think. It is called "The Order of the Greenhand" and I highly recommend it! They have some theories that I have yet to read about in any detail such as they present. Some would be great topics to discuss, so check it out! (Again, I have nothing to do with them but I love what they have achieved with their vids!) Thanks, I will check out this channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 I don't buy into their discussion of Val either lol. Bit far I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuvuuia Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Jon's Queen Consort said: Allyria Dayne is Allyria SnowSand, the daughter of Ashara and Ned. Not Val and Jon's twin sister. sorry, i meant in the theory that assumes Val is Allyria (i know the usual Allyria theories) in that crackverse, who then is the woman Edric Dayne thinks is his aunt? If "real" Allyria is beyond the wall? Are there two of them - Asharas sister and Ashara's daughter named the same name for no reason, or only one woman and she travelled north at some point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 21 hours ago, Shuvuuia said: sorry, i meant in the theory that assumes Val is Allyria (i know the usual Allyria theories) in that crackverse, who then is the woman Edric Dayne thinks is his aunt? If "real" Allyria is beyond the wall? Are there two of them - Asharas sister and Ashara's daughter named the same name for no reason, or only one woman and she travelled north at some point? Yeh, I don't know about that one hahaha! Seemed out there didn't it?! Though, perhaps Val (in their theory) left Starfall a few years earlier, and Edric was squire to Berric, so he would be off with him too. Dunno, that one had me scratching my head. Perhaps the whole "ghost and Val look like they belong together" prose was a point towards her Dayne blood, not them being twins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daendrew Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I've written dozens of theories on my site. Below are links and summaries. The IceBrandon: “Winter Is Flying” “Winter is coming” means the ice dragon named Winter is coming. Bloodraven via Bran wakes the icedragon named Winter in the black pool of Winterfell. Bran is the King of Winter the ice dragon. Bran has already flown as the ice dragon in his dream where he gave his (corn) seed and his soul to the crow, Bloodraven. Bran died and was reborn with the magic of the ground and weirwood roots just as Dany died and was reborn by fire. This entire story is set in play by the conflict when Jaime threw Bran from the tower and their conflcit will frame the story’s conclusion. Nightbringer: The Hammerhorn of the Waters Daenerys summons the red comet to strike the moon which brings the Long Night. The Hammer of the Waters may be a horn; Euron’s horn. The Hammerhorn of the Waters will be sounded by Daenerys “the Unburnt”, who is the only person who can possibly sound it three times without burning from within to bring about the apocalypse. Azor Ahai’s sword may a horn as asteroid strike the earth like a sword. Chunks of moon falls to Earthos bringing plumes of smoke to block out the sun, bringing darkness. Simultaneously the moon is moved closer to Earthos and it’s increased gravity brings flooding and cold. The flooding freezes over and Westeros becomes the Land of Always Winter. Dany is a Nissa Nissa figure to the man who makes her sound the Hammerhorn one of the “heroes” prophesied to come again. Azor Ahannister & The Others That Were Promised Jamie is one of the remanifestations of Azor Ahai reborn. “Golden hand” means Lord of Light in Valyrian. Jamie will forge the blue-white flamed Lightbringer through (Brienne) killing Lady Stoneheart, secondly he will fulfill both the valonqar and Azor Ahai prophesies by killing Cersei and lastly through killing his love Brienne he will forge Lightbringer. Dragonsteel may be forged with ironwood charcoal. The fire of the dragon not the fire from the dragon is needed to forge it, namely the life soulfire of the dragon. The Hooded Man of Winterfell Revealed This provides the basis for my “For The Night” theory listed below. Theon is the sleepwalking killer of Yellow Dick by being under the glasscandle control of Euron, the hooded man of Winterfell. “For The Night” Jon’s death was not a murder. It was a blood sacrifice to wake the stone dragon… that is made of ice. Euron is the nighwalker that used a glass candle to control the movments and conscious actions of Theon the nightwalkee. The body language of Jon’s killers tells the truth but words lie. Brienne The “More Beautiful” Why Brienne is Jamie’s Nissa Nissa. The Many-Faced God Revealed… A very chilly introduction to Him of Many Places. So Long Night… Winter Is Birthing This was my last theory post which very succinctly summarized all my ice dragon theories. Contains the biggest show clues thus far to show that IceBrandon is coming. The Stone Dragon is Made of Ice The stone dragon Melissandre wants to wake is Winter the ice dragon. The Ice Dragon Must Have Three Heads Aside from Winter the enormous ice dragon, there may be two more ice dragons in the cave with Bloodraven. Lemony Lemongate: Daenerys and The Three Heads Daenerys know nothing. The house with the red door was not in Braavos, but Lemonwood, the seat of House Dalt in Dorne. Daenerys may be a child of three different siblings Winter Fell: Death of Azor Ahai & The IceBrandon Jamie is one of the reborn manifestations of Azor Ahai. Jamie will thrust a flaming Lightbringer sword into Winter the IceBrandon melting the ice dragon and extinguishing Lightbringer in the process. When Lightbringer’s fire goes out, so does Jamie’s. Jamie was blood of the dragon, but now his fire has gone out. The Game of Horns: Blow or Get Blown The Horn of Winter helps wake or control Winter the ice dragon. The Horn of Joramun is Euron’s/Dany’s horn which she sounds three times signaling the coming of the Others. This horn heralds the red comet to strike the moon causing darkness, cold and flooding. The crash frees an unfathomably large world serpent, the sea dragon Joramun who is only partially(!) frozen in the Wall. The Stepstone islands are scales of this enormous sea dragon. When the Horn of Joramun (the Hammerhorn) is sounded these mountains will blow in the wind like leaves. The future Stromking will defeat the enormous serpent Joramun. The Horn that Wakes the Sleepers brings enormous giants back into the world. We have never seen true giants. These giants dwarf Wun Wun by a mile. There may be stone, fire and ice giants either metaphorically or literally. Flight of The IceBrandon: Chapter Review A line by line chapter review of Bran’s flight as the ice dragon. The Dance of The Dragons is Plural Show evidence that Winter, the ice dragon made of stone, is coming. Garden of Edenos: A Tale of Two Trees This is a tale of two trees, the song of black ironwood and white weirwood;, the tree of knowledge and the tree of eternal life. The Lace Serpent: Duskendale & The Night’s Queen The Lace Serpent Lady Serala is a Metaphor for the Nights Queen. The Secret Second Wall There is a second secret Wall at the Bloody Gate and Lord Commander Brynden Tully is in charge of it. The Boneway in Dorne may be a third secret wall too. Very Fishy: Osha Turncloak Osha may be a Deep One and kidnapped Rickon. Shaggy Dogs eyes are green like wildfire which is associated with water. The Halfdivorce Tyrion is still married to Tysha and his marriage to Sansa is nullified. Petyr knows because Tysha works in his brothel at the Happy Port. Tyrion will help the mountain clansmen take over the Vale. The IcePriestess of Asshai Melissandre unknowingly worships ice and not fire. GRRM commissioned a custom Melissandre figurine in ice colors. The Ruse of Bolton Roose Bolton may skinflaynge into Robb and “surprise Jon at the Wall”. Roose The Rat Cook Roose may be a Rat Cook. The CIA: Citadel Intelligence Agency History isn’t written by the victors. History is written by the maesters. In ways great and small, the Citadel has altered our understanding of history for their own mysterious and seemingly anti-magic nepharious purposes. Robin Arryn’s shaking sickness is not epilepsy but drug withdrawal from sweetsleep which is used to both manipulate and then kill him. The Citadel may also be a Rat Cook. Tyrion & Samwell Are The Riddlers of The Sphinx Tyrion and Sam may be the riddlers of the Sphinx. Tyrion’s is missing a nose like the Egyptian Sphinx and his riddle is where do whores go. Sam is the one posing the riddles about the riddler and is thus The Riddler. Beyond Horrible: The Meaning of “The Dornishman’s Wife” The song doesn’t mean what we think it means. It is a song about the Long Night. Aemon Targaryen: The Icedragon Knight Jon’s true name is Aemon. He will come back othered. Jon becomes Aemon the Icedragonknight atop Winter the icedragon. Fire, Ice and Sea: The Three Heads of The Dragon Revealed The three heads of the dragon are fire, ice and sea dragons. Lemony Lemonwood: Daenerys Fire and Bloodwyrms Dany is blood of the wyrm. The Seven Children The squirrel people of the forest in Bran’s cave are named after the Seven gods. The Old Gods are The New. The Seven and the Old Gods are the same religion. We Are The World… We Are The Children Children grow up to become men. Tormund Giantsbane: Husband to She-Bears Tormund may have slept with Alysane Mormont either in human form or if she skinchanged into a bear. He is the father of Alysane’s two cubs. unOberyn Star-Eyes Martell Oberyn Martell is Simeon Star-Eyes Maury Povich and The Baratheon Tapestries. The Baratheon Tapestries are like Ned’s book of family lineages to show that Myrcella and Tommen are bastards because they don’t have black hair. Nymeria And Her 10,000 Wolves Nymeria will lead a pack of wolves at the Wall. They may fight ice spiders. Did The Red Meteor Cause The Long Night? This post was the basis for my Hammerhorn of The Waters post. The Others Are Not The True Enemy The gods are the enemy, not the Others. The gods are those who have eaten of both the tree of knowledge and the tree of eternal life. Dany is a god and thus “the enemy”, per se. This will be fifty shades of greyscale: beyond good and evil. All sides in the conflict will have just reasons for their unjust actions. This post builds from the Garden of Edenos. unCivil War for The Dawn The Long Night will echo the battles between the “Greystarks”, Starks and Bolton’s as it did previously. The Purpose of Ice Spiders Spiders climb Walls. Is Show Night’s King… A Slave? Bloodraven may be manipulating (show) Night’s King. The Bloodfather Bloodraven may be manipulating (show) Night’s King, Melissandre and Euron. R’hllor and The Lord of Light Revealed. They Are Different People. Bloodraven is R’hllor and Jamie is the Lord of Light. Brave Arya Stark: A Song To Make Us Weep Arya is Brave Danny Flint Mad-Axe Revealed unWill will be back. Jafer Flowers Is… Gennifer Flowers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 wow haha. In the WOIAF book, there i a map of the World. On it is a dragon with three heads, and a another regular one, bigger. And in the back index on the border are three grown dragon, and two little hatching dragons...more dragons to come could very well be on the cards! Of all the queer and fabulous denizens of the Shivering Sea, however, the greatest are the ice dragons. These colossal beasts, many times larger than the dragons of Valyria, are said to be made of living ice, with eyes of pale blue crystal and vast translucent wings through which the moon and stars can be glimpsed as they wheel across the sky. Whereas common dragons (if any dragon can truly be said to be common) breathe flame, ice dragons supposedly breathe cold, a chill so terrible that it can freeze a man solid in half a heartbeat. The World of Ice and Fire – Beyond the Free Cities: The Shivering Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daendrew Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 6 hours ago, Bonkers said: wow haha. In the WOIAF book, there i a map of the World. On it is a dragon with three heads, and a another regular one, bigger. And in the back index on the border are three grown dragon, and two little hatching dragons...more dragons to come could very well be on the cards! Of all the queer and fabulous denizens of the Shivering Sea, however, the greatest are the ice dragons. These colossal beasts, many times larger than the dragons of Valyria, are said to be made of living ice, with eyes of pale blue crystal and vast translucent wings through which the moon and stars can be glimpsed as they wheel across the sky. Whereas common dragons (if any dragon can truly be said to be common) breathe flame, ice dragons supposedly breathe cold, a chill so terrible that it can freeze a man solid in half a heartbeat. The World of Ice and Fire – Beyond the Free Cities: The Shivering Sea 2 The Ice Dragon Must Have Three Heads Aside from Winter the enormous ice dragon, there may be two more ice dragons in the cave with Bloodraven. Fire, Ice and Sea: The Three Heads of The Dragon Revealed The three heads of the dragon are fire, ice and sea dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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