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Comeuppance for Jaime and Cersei

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On 3/25/2021 at 12:15 PM, Angel Eyes said:

On the evidence of somebody she trusted blindly, after she told Ned not to do the same with Robert.

She'd known Littlefinger a long time and most people trust him.

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On 3/7/2021 at 7:29 AM, Arthur Peres said:

Joffrey was just reacting to the chaos around him, and was a minor, his grandfather started it all and tossed him into the mess.

 

Excuse me? Joffrey was just reacting? Was he "just reacting" when he ordered his men to bring him Ned Stark's head? Was he "just reacting" when he sent an assassin to open Bran's throat? Was he "just reacting to the chaos around him" when he would sent the Kingsguard to beat Sansa up? Was he "just reacting" when he forced Sansa to look at her father's freaking head? Hmm? Was he? 

On 3/7/2021 at 5:34 AM, Allardyce said:

Cersei, Jaime, and Robert are all terrible people.  Robert was unfaithful and there is no moral obligation on Cersei's part to be faithful to him.  She can rebel against the double standard in secret and that is not wrong.  Robert was willing to murder an innocent girl who was pregnant when he began to perceive her as a threat.  He let the murder of two children go unpunished because it served his interest.  If the Targ-haters won't hold that against him, they should not hold it against Cersei even if she had Robert's bastards murdered.  They were an affront and a threat to her own children.  She could murder all of his bastards and that won't come to the number of children who died in Robert's own rebellion.  Cersei and the Lannisters took the throne from the Baratheons.  I don't hold that against her.  Robert took the throne from Aerys and his heirs.  Rules and traditions were broken.  The Lannisters could do the same to the Baratheons and it would not be immoral.  The Baratheons were arguably more harmful to the kingdom compared to King Aerys II.

You are trying to justify Cersei's actions. Robert was bad, but he's nowhere near as bad as Cersei. 

 

Cersei: Kills all of Robert's bastards she can get her hands on. Makes an enemy of the Iron Bank. Permits the Faith to arm again and become too powerful. Installs a council of idiots, lickspittles, and fools

Robert: Is an idiot. Permits the Crown's debts to run rampant. Permits Cersei to run all over him. Drinks and screws and eats everything possible. Orders people to kill Dany. That's bad, but not as bad as sending gold cloaks to kill a baby and her mom.

On 3/10/2021 at 3:59 PM, Moiraine Sedai said:

Robb had a choice.  He could have gone to King's Landing and obeyed the royal summons.  

Once he got there, he would never leave KL alive. 

 

Edited by Jaenara Belarys

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On 3/4/2021 at 8:46 PM, Kierria said:

The three Lannister lion cubs will die.  Isn't that punishment enough.  

The lion cubs did nothing wrong. Well... Tommen and Myrcella did nothing wrong. Cersei is probably going to die at some point and she’s earned that death for her many misdeeds.

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3 minutes ago, Lee-Sensei said:

The lion cubs did nothing wrong. Well... Tommen and Myrcella did nothing wrong. Cersei is probably going to die at some point and she’s earned that death for her many misdeeds.

Tommen and Myrcella didn't do anything. Joffrey deserved what he got. Cersei deserves what she's hopefully going to get.

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20 hours ago, Jaenara Belarys said:

Excuse me? Joffrey was just reacting? Was he "just reacting" when he ordered his men to bring him Ned Stark's head? Was he "just reacting" when he sent an assassin to open Bran's throat? Was he "just reacting to the chaos around him" when he would sent the Kingsguard to beat Sansa up? Was he "just reacting" when he forced Sansa to look at her father's freaking head? Hmm? Was he? 

 

He was a minor being used and influenced by adults around him. Littlefinger used him to kill Ned,

Bran assassination attempt was Joffrey being the little shit that he was, but not even close to the major reasons for the war of the five kings.

Abusing Sansa was he reacting to the defeats the Lannisters endured. Not justified, completly pointless stupid and cruel, but not the cause of the war.

Cersei and Jaime are the most responsable for the war, their actions lead to the conflict. Littlefinger and Stannis comes next a they could stop it before it started, but chose not. Tywin, starting the agression, Ned failing to listen to Renly and Catelyn arrest/kidnaping Tyrion are all more responsable for the war then anything  Joffrey did.

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