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  1. Arthur Peres

    Jaime as the Golden Lion

    Don't know from where you are, but where I live, if you play you words like Joe Pesci you will get arrested. Threat of violence to force someone to do something already is violence. Never said he was, but it does not change much of my view about him. He never took any of them serious to begin with. His KG oaths were a joke before he made them and the only purpuse was to keep sleeping with Cersei. Never said it was, I said that refusing the CR was him running away from ruling, and he still does it in the KG when he refuses the Hand position. He is not ignoring her, he is getting back at her. Do not forget , that he only changed his feelings for her because she cheated on him, not because he realized she is a terrible person and felt morally repulsed. As long as he thought she was faithful and loved him, he had no problem doing terrible things for her and her terrible acts weren't an issue for him at all.
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    Jaime as the Golden Lion

    Does not change the fact, Jaime is running away from rulling and responsability at any chance he gets. Several other characters had faced similar situations and were forced to take matters on their on hands. Jaime is always refusing it. He then refused to go back to KL later on when summoned and burned Cersei's letter. Jaime does not care about oaths, duty or Tommen, his main concern is Cersei, before finding out about being "cheated" he made everything in his power to pleasure her without any thoughts, judgement or regreats. After that he made everything possible to piss her off. All his thoughts always go back to Cersei. Threat of violence, already is violence and a crime in itself, and he did not just throw words at play here, he cast out the Tullys out of Riverrun and tried to kill the Blackfish. He broke the oath the moment he took control of the siege. The sword he gave her, was a heirdoom of the house his father sacked, so returning stolen goods that were violeted does little favor on my opinion, (but that's me). I had forgotten about the letter, so I give you that. What else he could have done? Look for her himself Shrik his other duties? he never acted on any of them Lol. Refused any chance to rule, being Casterly rock or Hand of the king, when called back he burned the letter and has now disapeared for months.
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    Jaime as the Golden Lion

    Lol. I never picked up on Cersei becoming a mix of Robert and Aerys, this is hilarious now that I think about it.
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    Jaime as the Golden Lion

    Tyrion knows Jaime better than Jaime himself. Before be sent to the Riverlands Jaime was offered the position of Hand, where he could protect Tommen much more efficient, he turned that down but took the first chance to go to the Riverlands, just like Tyrion said. “It will be up to us to finish his work. You must take Father’s place as Hand. You see that now, surely. Tommen will need you …” He pushed away from her and raised his arm, forcing his stump into her face. “A Hand without a hand? A bad jape, sister. Don’t ask me to rule.” Sure he is changing, but the core of his character still the same, he still a selfcentered, narcisitic, prick, that has Cersei as his main concern, but now he is angry instead of in love with her. He is not keeping his promise to Catelyn, he is pushing her family out of their castle, while he threatned to catapult her nephew to the walls, and he leaved taking her brother as hostage, he send a single knight, that already was sworn to Catelyn , to look for a girl she doesn't know and call it quits. He never wanted to be the heir to CR, he never wanted to rule as Tyrion pointed out. He is changing but he is still him.
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    Jaime as the Golden Lion

    This is part of the "redemption arc" that some people (not my case) think Jaime is going under. The way I see Jaime still went away from the capital to fight in the riverlans, instead of staying by Tommen's side, and let Cersei that even he started to see as toxic and dangerous now to control his king. He is running from responsability again like he always did as Tyrion pointed out. My brother, Jaime, thirsts for battle, not for power. He's run from every chance he's had to rule
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    Jaime as the Golden Lion

    About the Tysha incident Jaime himself feels guilty about it and had to confess it to Tyrion. His kids... let's remember how he consindered them first Joffrey: A squirt of seed in Cersei’s cunt, and he deserved to die. Jaime sat silent through it all, letting the words wash over him, a horn of ale forgotten in his one good hand.Joffrey. My blood. My firstborn. My son . He tried to bring the boy’s face to mind, but his features kept turning into Cersei’s He was curiously calm. Men were supposed to go mad with grief when their children died, he knew. They were supposed to tear their hair out by the roots, to curse the gods and swear red vengeance. So why was it that he felt so little? And now he’s dead. He pictured Joff lying still and cold with a face black from poison, and still felt nothing. Perhaps he was the monster they claimed. If the Father Above came down to offer him back his son or his hand, Jaime knew which he would choose. Now Tommen: “He is your son . . . ” “He is my seed. He’s never called me Father. No more than Joffrey ever did. You warned me a thousand times never to show any undue interest in them.” I could not find anything about Myrcella, but given the previous results I truly don't know if this is good or bad. About Arya, lets ask Jaime himself. “As I was fucking her, Cersei cried, ‘I want.’ I thought that she meant me, but it was the Stark girl that she wanted, maimed or dead.” The things I do for love. “It was only by chance that Stark’s own men found the girl before me. If I had come on her first …” And about Bran, even Cersei blamed him and seemed to be the best human being in that situation. I’m not ashamed of loving you, only of the things I’ve done to hide it. That boy at Winterfell . . . ” “Did I tell you to throw him out the window? If you’d gone hunting as I begged you, nothing would have happened. But no, you had to have me, you could not wait until we returned to the city. All this sounds like a really decent guy.
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    Shouldn’t Robb have been betrothed at least?

    There are much older men than Robb that didn't married either. Willas and Loras for once, Lancel, Black Walder. When Ned was older than Robb he was not bethroted either, Rhaegar was only bethrothed when he was 20. The only weird think about Robb situation is that Ned and Catelyn never even start to think about any girl for him. I can't even remember if Ned thinks of Robb even once on his POVs.
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    What if elia and children survive

    So you blame Robert for the deeds of Cersei and LF, and you blame Jon Arryn for getting murder... If anything Robert is the victim in these situations. Robert had plenty of faults but you don't adress any of them and blame him for the action of others...What's next you gonna blame Hoster for getting ill? The rebels had every right to fight for their lifes, and they don't have any blame for events that happened after their deaths. Cersei and Jaime are the ones that usurped the sucession line and Stannis the one that hold on information without telling anyone then flee the city letting his brother to die.
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    What if elia and children survive

    Mortimert deposed and killed Edward II, he then became a lover of Queen Isabella and was killed by Edward III, son of Isabella and Edward II. Viserys was 8 and old enough to remember fleeing from Westeros and already show signs of madness acording to Barristan. He cleary would demand vengence, and he was Aerys named heir.
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    Shouldn’t Robb have been betrothed at least?

    Lynesse Hightower comes to mind. She seems to be superficial enough to be a concubine rather than the wife of the chief of Lys, she was a daughter of a powerful and rich family and she wanted a luxurious lifestyle that Robert seems to enjoy since he pretty much bankrupt the kingdom in parties and tournament, she lost interest in Jorah because his defeat at tournaments and Robert was a legendary warrior in his lifestyle, she is described as pretty and she seems to be able to plot enough to treat the wife of the chief os Lys, she could prevent a plotter like Renly, and she is not at the do list of Jaime.
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    What if elia and children survive

    Exept that time that he started a civil war when he asked for 2 young lords head for no reason and doomed thousands of lives.
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    What if elia and children survive

    The Targs have a history of going mad already, you're not going to wait in line when is your life on the line. Robert had all the rights of rebellion and claiming the throne only came at the end when they needed a solution to replace Aerys and Rhaegar. Aerys named Viserys his heir, and Viserys already was mad, and we see that he wanted revenge... even Daenerys that never saw Robert or Ned hold a grudge against them, and idolize Rhaegar, there is no way in hell anyone would put their lifes on the line, asking for pardon for something that was right. Exactly, Robert had no desire for the thorne and never asked for it, it only happened because the responsable think to do when you top a regime is present a alternative path, and doing that Robert was much more responsable than Rhaegar that abandoned everything because he got horny and doomed his dynasty. he claimed the throne before the Trident, had nothing to do with killing Rhaegar. That was just poetic justice. Eddard, Jon and Robert had no blame at all. They were fighting to stay alive after a idiot, horny selfcentered prince wronged them and a mad king asked for their heads fos no reason. Neither of them took part on the sack of KL, and even after it, Robert could have killed Viserys at any moment but chose not to do it, Robert pardoned everysingle lord that took arms against him, and even called of the plot to kill Daenerys in his final moments. All the blame is on Rhaegar, he pissed of 3 of the most powerful families in one stroke, he abandoned his wife, he let his father that was a know madman use his family as hostages, and stayed in a honeymoon for close to a year while the realm burned in a civil war he helped start. He choose to not let a single KG to guard his family, but 3 to guard Lyanna, not to mention that he knighted the men that would murder his wife and kids.
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    Jaime as the Golden Lion

    let's see Let his brothers's wife be gang raped and lied about it, swear a oath to the KG with no intention whatsoever to keep it just to run away from a match his father made, pushed a 8 years old boy from a tower, tried to kill a 9 years old girl just because. of course his is not evil... he does not even need redemption.
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    What if elia and children survive

    During the Rebellion was made clear that Aerys and Rhaegar had to die, and once they dispose of them who would take the throne? Aegon VI? Viserys III? risk being target by the crazy dynasty again? Robert being crowed was the most logical decision that they could make. Rhaegar running away with Lyanna and abanoning his wife and kids, and letting the realm sink in a civil war is unforgivable. Aerys killing Brandon and Rickard and them asking for Robert and Ned's head when they were the victms is unforgivable.
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    Why is navy underutilized in Westeros?

    From fire and blood. "Thousands of years before the Conquest, when the Kings of Winter still reigned in the North, Brandon the Shipwright had built an entire fleet of ships to cross the Sunset Sea. He took them west himself, never to return. His son and heir, another Brandon, burned the yards where they were built, and was known as Brandon the Burner forevermore.
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    Shouldn’t Robb have been betrothed at least?

    Robb was 14, Edmure, Renly, Tyrion and Oberyn are much older and neither of them is betrothed either.
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    What if elia and children survive

    I blame Rhaegar more than Robert. He started it all with Lyanna leaving his wife and kids behind, then disapeard for close to a year and let his crazy father deal with the situation...Robert was only fighting for survivor when they asked for his head when he did nothing wrong at that point.
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    How could Edmure prepare riverlands

    Acording to Ned, Edmure mistakes was that he spread his forces all over the riverlands instead of massing them on a single spot. Edmure also went on the offensive and send Piper and Vance to attack Jaime at the Golden Tooth and once they lost, Jaimes path was clear... Edmure once again offered battle without his full force and lost and was captured at Riverrun. If Edmure had just picked one defensive position and massed his forces there to beat the Lannisters in one decisive battle or even a indecisive bloodbath he could had stopped everything in one go.
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    What if elia and children survive

    Bobby B is king so in this case they will die. If Bobby wanted to settle the situation without blood, Aegon would be sent to the wall and Rhaenys would be forced to join the silent sisters or married to Robert.
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    Should robb had stayed in north

    No. Robb had no chance of freeing Ned. Robb made everything right in his condition that he could to make it, but Joffrey executed Eddard anyway.
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    Why does Balon Greyjoy want to attack the North?

    As long as Balon is calling himself King, Tywin is comming for him sooner or later, Theon already warned Balon about it and his was too dumb to take notice. Balon should have either not declared his independence and demand control of the lands his seize in the north, or called himself king, declara independence take Robb's offer, and demanded some garantees for his support like some lands in Cape Kraken, like was Asha's idea in the Kingsmoot. The mess he came up with, makes no sense at all, and that's why he is mocked or called crazy by everybody. “King Balon’s longships are occupied for the nonce,” Lord Tywin said politely, “as are we. Greyjoy demands half the kingdom as the price of alliance, but what will he do to earn it? Fight the Starks? He is doing that already. Why should we pay for what he has given us for free?” “Balon Greyjoy thinks in terms of plunder, not rule. Let him enjoy an autumn crown and suffer a northern winter. He will give his subjects no cause to love him. Come spring, the northmen will have had a bellyful of krakens" Balon could be deaf to things he did not wish to hear. .Balon refused to see what was plain before him Balon had been blind in some respects. A brave man but a bad lord “Call yourself King of the Iron islands, no one will care . . . until the wars are over, and the victor looks about and spies the old fool perched off his shore with an iron crown on his head.” “Balon was mad, Aeron is madder, and Euron is maddest of them all,”
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    Why does Balon Greyjoy want to attack the North?

    his last words about Theon are the following: They had spoken in the Sea Tower, as the wind howled outside the windows and the waves crashed restlessly below. Balon had shaken his head in despair when he heard what Aeron had to tell him of his last remaining son. “The wolves have made a weakling of him, as I feared,” the king had said. “I pray god that they killed him, so he cannot stand in Asha’s way.” Balon never changed his mind about Theon... wich is more than moronic, since Theon has more achiviments than Balon himself as a warrior.
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    Why does Balon Greyjoy want to attack the North?

    Exept that Balon was the one that didn't understand what would happen down the line, even Theon knew and told it on his face... “Take it, then,” he spat, his cheek still tingling. “Call yourself King of the Iron islands, no one will care . . . until the wars are over, and the victor looks about and spies the old fool perched off his shore with an iron crown on his head.” “A long cold swim, for a crown you cannot keep. Your father had more courage than sense. The Old Way served the isles well when we were one small kingdom amongst many, but Aegon’s Conquest put an end to that. Balon refused to see what was plain before him. The Old Way died with Black Harren and his sons.” Balon didn't even understand his own people That was Balon’s blindness; he saw himself in his wild, headstrong daughter, and believed she could succeed him. He was wrong in that, and Aeron tried to tell him so. “No woman will ever rule the ironborn, not even a woman such as Asha,” he insisted, but Balon could be deaf to things he did not wish to hear.
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    Why does Balon Greyjoy want to attack the North?

    Theon made a miracle, and even this wouldn't save the campaing as Asha and Tywin tell us. "To end this war before this war ends us. We have won all that we are like to win … and stand to lose all just as quick, unless we make a peace." A fisherman may hook a grey leviathan, but it will drag him down to death unless he cuts it loose. The north is too large for us to hold, and too full of northmen.” “Balon Greyjoy thinks in terms of plunder, not rule. Let him enjoy an autumn crown and suffer a northern winter. He will give his subjects no cause to love him. Come spring, the northmen will have had a bellyful of krakens"
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    Why does Balon Greyjoy want to attack the North?

    I would also add that Balon choose to make his campaing during the winter... when all he would be able to do is sit on some castles and wait for hunger and cold to melt his army.
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