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Honestly, I feel like Bran makes the most sense as the endgame king of Westeros.

Not only for all of the really cool magical acts of heroism he'll likely perform, but also for the fact he is the rightful Lord of both Winterfell and Harrenhal, the head of House Stark, Jon Targaryen's closest male relative and the true heir of Robb Stark who was a king in his own right. Also, given the fact that Arya is his sister, the Iron Bank (if it's still intact) will likely support him by way of Arya.

On 8/15/2023 at 2:36 AM, csuszka1948 said:

Actually, now that I think about it one of the strongest arguments in favor of Dany living (and departing the continent) is that if she dies from treachery or something like that, her khalasar won't just calmly accept it and go back to Essos, they would wreak further havoc and destruction in a continent which has been already depleted of armies.

Exactly!

That was the problem with the show.

The Dothraki and the Unsullied and the freedmen companies and whoever else sworn to her are not going to just accept the fact that their beloved Mhysa had been murdered...much less by someone who was supposed to protect her.

Dany is also in a unique position as she will be both khal and a member of the dosh khaleen. The Dothraki (who already have an established custom of avenging fallen khals with fire, blood and steel) will go apeshit and the Unsullied will co-sign the madness. In fact, murdering Dany could make her allies and supporters back in Essos want to invade Westeros.

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On 8/23/2023 at 2:41 AM, BlackLightning said:

The Dothraki and the Unsullied and the freedmen companies and whoever else sworn to her are not going to just accept the fact that their beloved Mhysa had been murdered...much less by someone who was supposed to protect her.

Dany is also in a unique position as she will be both khal and a member of the dosh khaleen. The Dothraki (who already have an established custom of avenging fallen khals with fire, blood and steel) will go apeshit and the Unsullied will co-sign the madness. In fact, murdering Dany could make her allies and supporters back in Essos want to invade Westeros.

That's true, but I'm still wondering, how many of the Dothraki and Unsullied will survive Dany's (re)conquest of Westeros. Since, at least in our real world, there are examples of large armies attempting an invasion at the beginning of winter and failing miserably (Napoleonic Wars and WWII). However, none of them had dragons :D

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On 9/22/2023 at 10:40 AM, Phileonidas said:

That's true, but I'm still wondering, how many of the Dothraki and Unsullied will survive Dany's (re)conquest of Westeros. Since, at least in our real world, there are examples of large armies attempting an invasion at the beginning of winter and failing miserably (Napoleonic Wars and WWII). However, none of them had dragons :D

To be fair, if she invades the south in the upcoming books she would probably face better conditions than Stannis is facing right now, or even the Ironborn in ASOS. Unless the others mean a MUCH harsher southron winter, since Martin talked a few times about how winter is not strong in Westeros south.

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