King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Maybe this is a well known thing, but it’s something I just thought of. Euron’s personal sigil is a red eye with a black crown. If he takes the Hightower and flies his flag at the top, it’ll be very similar to the Eye of Sauron from Lord of the Rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey family reunion Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 That's a pretty good observation. I think there are definite parallels between the Hightower and Orthanc (Saruman's tower in LOTR), but I never thought of the additional imagery that Euron's eye would add to the scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynnS Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Yes, for sure. Euron - Sauron , sounds similar. I've been wondering if Quaithe's warning about the glass candles burning in the house of Urrathon Nightwalker is actually the Citadel, where we know there are glass candles burning. Her warning could be foreshadowing Euron taking the Citadel for his seat and glass candles are somewhat similar to palantir or seeing stones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd Posted February 22, 2023 Author Share Posted February 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, LynnS said: Yes, for sure. Euron - Sauron , sounds similar. I've been wondering if Quaithe's warning about the glass candles burning in the house of Urrathon Nightwalker is actually the Citadel, where we know there are glass candles burning. Her warning could be foreshadowing Euron taking the Citadel for his seat and glass candles are somewhat similar to palantir or seeing stones. Urrathon Nightwalker was almost certainly Euron IMO. There is an old King of the Iron Islands named Urrathon. And all we know of him was that he was pure evil and he murdered several of his brothers and relatives. Save for one, who was not present during the Kingsmoot to press his claim (Theon wasn’t present to press his claim) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynnS Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 To add a bit of mystery; I don't think this dream is about Jamie and Cersei. But rather Leyton Hightower and the Mad Maid. Quote A Feast for Crows - Samwell V "The Hightower must be doing something." "To be sure. Lord Leyton's locked atop his tower with the Mad Maid, consulting books of spells. Might be he'll raise an army from the deeps. Or not. Baelor's building galleys, Gunthor has charge of the harbor, Garth is training new recruits, and Humfrey's gone to Lys to hire sellsails. If he can winkle a proper fleet out of his whore of a sister, we can start paying back the ironmen with some of their own coin. Till then, the best we can do is guard the sound and wait for the bitch queen in King's Landing to let Lord Paxter off his leash." The bitterness of the captain's final words shocked Sam as much as the things he said. If King's Landing loses Oldtown and the Arbor, the whole realm will fall to pieces, he thought as he watched the Huntress and her sisters moving off. Bran's dream (below) sounds like Jamie and Cersei at first glance: Quote A Game of Thrones - Bran IV In his dream he was climbing again, pulling himself up an ancient windowless tower, his fingers forcing themselves between blackened stones, his feet scrabbling for purchase. Higher and higher he climbed, through the clouds and into the night sky, and still the tower rose before him. When he paused to look down, his head swam dizzily and he felt his fingers slipping. Bran cried out and clung for dear life. The earth was a thousand miles beneath him and he could not fly. He could not fly. He waited until his heart had stopped pounding, until he could breathe, and he began to climb again. There was no way to go but up. Far above him, outlined against a vast pale moon, he thought he could see the shapes of gargoyles. His arms were sore and aching, but he dared not rest. He forced himself to climb faster. The gargoyles watched him ascend. Their eyes glowed red as hot coals in a brazier. Perhaps once they had been lions, but now they were twisted and grotesque. Bran could hear them whispering to each other in soft stone voices terrible to hear. He must not listen, he told himself, he must not hear, so long as he did not hear them he was safe. But when the gargoyles pulled themselves loose from the stone and padded down the side of the tower to where Bran clung, he knew he was not safe after all. "I didn't hear," he wept as they came closer and closer, "I didn't, I didn't." He woke gasping, lost in darkness, and saw a vast shadow looming over him. "I didn't hear," he whispered, trembling in fear, but then the shadow said "Hodor," and lit the candle by the bedside, and Bran sighed with relief. The height of the ancient tower of blackened stone and overhearing a whispered conversation could be a distortion of his suppressed memory of Jamie and Cersei. Or it could be Bran seeing someone engaged in sorcery. The description of the gargoyles who may have once been lions, twisted and grotesque could be a reference to the sphinx of the Citadel: The gates are flanked by a pair of tall green sphinxes with the bodies of lions, the wings of eagles and the tails of serpents. One has the face of a man, the other a woman. - Westeros Wiki So perhaps there is more than one sphinx riddle in this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrosh Lannister Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 What happens after he unfurls his sigil at the top of the hightower? Will he do something magical ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynnS Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 33 minutes ago, Tyrosh Lannister said: What happens after he unfurls his sigil at the top of the hightower? Will he do something magical ? What happens if he has the use of at least one glass candle? We can't be sure that Marwyn is the only one there who can use one? Quote A Feast for Crows - Samwell V "What feeds the flame?" asked Sam. "What feeds a dragon's fire?" Marwyn seated himself upon a stool. "All Valyrian sorcery was rooted in blood or fire. The sorcerers of the Freehold could see across mountains, seas, and deserts with one of these glass candles. They could enter a man's dreams and give him visions, and speak to one another half a world apart, seated before their candles. Do you think that might be useful, Slayer?" Do you think that would be useful to Euron. How about a blood eye in the sky? Quote A Dance with Dragons - Tyrion VIII Only the brightest stars were visible, all to the west. A dull red glow lit the sky to the northeast, the color of a blood bruise. Tyrion had never seen a bigger moon. Monstrous, swollen, it looked as if it had swallowed the sun and woken with a fever. Its twin, floating on the sea beyond the ship, shimmered red with every wave. "What hour is this?" he asked Moqorro. "That cannot be sunrise unless the east has moved. Why is the sky red?" Benerro is certainly agitated by the moon. A blood Moon eclipse has that effect on on the superstitious. It's an evil omen. Perhaps this is foreshadowing of Euron gaining access to a glass candle at the Citadel. Especially since the blood moon has a twin on the sea. Moqorro says the dark eye has fallen upon Dany but in The Foresaken chapter; Euron now goes by the name Euron Blood Eye. You might also tie what Tyrion saw, with what Mirri Maaz Duur said: Quote A Dance with Dragons - Tyrion VIII Only the brightest stars were visible, all to the west. A dull red glow lit the sky to the northeast, the color of a blood bruise. Tyrion had never seen a bigger moon. Monstrous, swollen, it looked as if it had swallowed the sun and woken with a fever. Its twin, floating on the sea beyond the ship, shimmered red with every wave. "What hour is this?" he asked Moqorro. "That cannot be sunrise unless the east has moved. Why is the sky red?" Quote A Game of Thrones - Daenerys IX "When will he be as he was?" Dany demanded. "When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," said Mirri Maz Duur. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before." Mirri uses the language of signs and portents by using the the word when. It doesn't necessarily mean that Dany will see these omens herself. It looks like GRRM gave the first one to Tyrion. When the sub/son rises in the West and sets in the East could point the finger at Tyrion as well. He leaves Illyrio's manse through the Sunrise Gate although he does.t see the sun. It seems to me that Mirri's answer to Dany's question is not so impossible after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Oldstones Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 I hope Mad Maid will pull a Alys Rivers and make ironborn theives flee but no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lord of Oldstones said: I hope Mad Maid will pull a Alys Rivers and make ironborn theives flee but no chance. See, I think she has a part to play in what’s coming. I think she might be Euron’s queen. With hands The hands of pale fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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