Crixus Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Jace, Extat said: Israel does care about civilian casualties. It does care about dead children. The proof is Hamas, which only exists because of Israeli restraint among civilians and children to date. This is a baffling claim. Are you conferring some sort of moral high ground on the Israeli government because Hamas exists?? Did you read the NYT link @Zorral posted that talks about Netanyahu's dealings with Hamas? Also, 'Israel cares about dead children' seems laughably simplistic when you review the number of dead Palestinian children (hundreds in the last couple of days alone) , thanks to heavy bombing and other shit, by the Israeli government. But I guess that was all done with the deepest anguish, simply to eliminate Hamas, right? At no point in the last decade did the Israeli government simply shrug and move forward, despite knowing loads of Palestinian civilians and kids had died at their hands - wtf?? The reality is a bit different (and this individual was in the government): https://www.dailysabah.com/world/mid-east/israeli-lawmakers-kill-all-palestinians-remarks-resurface Then there's Yair Golan's statement about similar trends in Israel now, as existed in Europe before the Holocaust: https://www.timesofisrael.com/incoming-mk-yair-golan-again-compares-right-wing-to-nazis-drawing-ire/ And more recently, an ex IDF general on the ongoing illegal settlements: https://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-idf-general-likens-military-control-of-west-bank-to-nazi-germany/ Laying all the blame at 'Hamas human shields' (which is evil and something I acknowledge they do) seems to absolve Israel of any and all wrongdoing - weird when you look at actual facts. Edited October 12, 2023 by Crixus Links dbergkvist, Larry of the Lawn and Craving Peaches 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Crixus said: seems to absolve Israel of any and all wrongdoing - weird when you look at actual facts. Hamas human shields do not explain the supposed targeting of emergency services either. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/12/gaza-hospitals-risk-turning-into-morgues-rights-groups-call-for-action Quote A representative from al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City on Wednesday said that Israeli authorities have targeted first responders assisting civilians https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/12/war-crime-gaza-medics-say-israel-targeting-ambulances-health-facilities Edited October 12, 2023 by Craving Peaches Crixus and dbergkvist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/11/collective-punishment-of-millions-in-gaza-not-justified-humza-yousaf The First Minister's relatives are still alive as of now. I hope that the plan to establish a humanitarian corridor succeeds so innocent people in Gaza do not have to suffer any more. Edited October 12, 2023 by Craving Peaches dbergkvist and Crixus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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