TerraPrime Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Plus, if HBO has taught us anything, isn't it that strip clubs are simply fronts for evil organized crime organizations?Your lack of knowledge about the porn industry's ties to the mafia is thus revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantabile Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Your lack of knowledge about the porn industry's ties to the mafia is thus revealed.I can't find any articles on it through a quick Google search, except to say that while perhaps during the 80s and earlier organized crime had a role in the pornography industry, the advent of the Internet, home video, DVDs, and other revolutions has pretty much destroyed any links there are to organized crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edda van Heefmstra Ruston Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 So you can't find any articles on it, therefore you draw your own conclusion? Really? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insomnium Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Rather than searching, wouldn't it just be easier to go to the mafia website?I don't know the password... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoth Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 I don't know the password...Try "cannoli" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edda van Heefmstra Ruston Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Paging Yagathai to aisle 3, Yagathai to aisle 3 please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deaf Dick Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Rather than searching, wouldn't it just be easier to go to the mafia website?The Outfit, my man, the Outfit. There is no mafia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insomnium Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Try "cannoli"Tried that and "marone". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantabile Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 So you can't find any articles on it, therefore you draw your own conclusion? Really? :lol:Did you not see where I wrote, "except to say," meaning that I did find articles, only ones stating the opposite of his claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edda van Heefmstra Ruston Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 I did see it, but unless they were peer-reviewed studies in internationally-known journals, I don't think you should just take their word for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Wolf Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 This thread is a pretty interesting read. Please continue people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantabile Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 You really expect to find peer-reviewed studies in internationally-known journals about whether or not organized crime's role in pornography is decreasing due to dissemination of technology? Okay, find me a peer-reviewed study in an internationally-known journal drawing a strong link between the pornography industry and organized crime, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edda van Heefmstra Ruston Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 No no, you made the claim, you provide the proof. Or do you not remember your own demands on other topics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesome possum Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 You really expect to find peer-reviewed studies in internationally-known journals about whether or not organized crime's role in pornography is decreasing due to dissemination of technology? Okay, find me a peer-reviewed study in an internationally-known journal drawing a strong link between the pornography industry and organized crime, then.Didn't this part of the conversation stem from you using something seen in The Sopranos as an indicator into how the mafia truly runs business? Doesn't that mean, combined with every single other sentence you've written in this thread, that no one should take you seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraPrime Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 I can't find any articles on it through a quick Google search, except to say that while perhaps during the 80s and earlier organized crime had a role in the pornography industry, the advent of the Internet, home video, DVDs, and other revolutions has pretty much destroyed any links there are to organized crime.So, all those human trafficking is just for prostitution then, and no women were coerced into performing for pornographic films nowadays, especially not in places where exploitable women are readily available and where regulation is lax due to confluence of mafia and the government, like, say, Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantabile Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 No no, you made the claim, you provide the proof. Or do you not remember your own demands on other topics?No, I made the claim that according to HBO strip clubs are fronts for organized crime. Another poster then said that pornography is well. They were the one that made the claim that pornography is linked to organized crime, thus the burden of proof is on them. The burden of proof is not for me to disprove that claim.Didn't this part of the conversation stem from you using something seen in The Sopranos as an indicator into how the mafia truly runs business? I was thinking of the strip club in the first season of The Wire, actually. But The Sopranos certainly fits as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesome possum Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 I was thinking of the strip club in the first season of The Wire, actually. But The Sopranos certainly fits as well.And you realize both of those are fictional, right? You're demanding that someone who's arguing against your point look through academic journals to refute the point you arrived at from watching fictional shows.Dude, you've either got to be one of the most delusional people I've seen on the internet (which says a lot) or have taken trolling to an almost artistic level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantabile Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 And you realize both of those are fictional, right? You're demanding that someone who's arguing against your point look through academic journals to refute the point you arrived at from watching fictional shows.Dude, you've either got to be one of the most delusional people I've seen on the internet (which says a lot) or have taken trolling to an almost artistic level.I thought my post about HBO was pretty obvious sarcasm, I guess not. Not to say that I don't think strip clubs have far more of a link to organized crime than pornography, but the link is pretty weak in this day and age. Strip clubs are a pretty massive enterprise, though I have no doubt smaller local strip clubs can have organized crime ties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balefont Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 I am very close to a woman who started out as a prostitute at 16. She mostly turned tricks until maybe 10 years ago as she transitioned into stripping. Her territory was Chinatown in Boston.Why did she do it - any of it? At first it was the money. The thrill. She was an A student - a "goodie 2-shoes" and she realized she could make a ton of money, quickly, and without a HS diploma or degree. She eventually got her GED and is currently in college. She has 3 kids (which is the motivating factor behind finally going to college). She's 34 and still strips in CT. She makes a decent living off of regulars. She may still turn a trick or two on occasion because that's where the better money is (for someone her age) but it's only with old familiars from the Boston area. But the risk factor of tricking is much, much greater than stripping.So, for the most part, she sticks with stripping to pay her rent and bills and take care of her kids and go to school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balefont Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 I thought my post about HBO was pretty obvious sarcasm, I guess not. Not to say that I don't think strip clubs have far more of a link to organized crime than pornography, but the link is pretty weak in this day and age. Strip clubs are a pretty massive enterprise, though I have no doubt smaller local strip clubs can have organized crime ties.ORLY? In RI, everything has mob ties but especially our clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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