Strip Clubs

[Lord O' Bones]

legal prostitution,

I believe that this is not the case as weird as it may seem.

[zollo]

Dunno. Again Germany, France, and Prague all had them and they were all heavily advertised. Didn't see any in Denmark. Saw advertisements for 'em all through England/Scotland/Ireland. And Amsterdam was another thing entirely.

I think folks going down that road are hung up on the nudity thing and not concentrating on the bigger facet of a strip club - live people who are naked and are likely touching or close to you. There's a big difference between seeing nakedness and experiencing nakedness. By that same token you'd think that porn wouldn't be a big deal in Europe either, but apparently it's huge there too. So there's something else going on.

Don't get me wrong - I am not saying they don't exist or are not advertised in those areas, of course they do and of course they are. I am saying that I think that the concept of strip clubs and strippers are not nearly as ingrained in the cultures / societies I have lived in or am otherwise familiar with (NW and N Europe*) in comparison to American society**. In those areas, for you average man/woman, going to a strip club is simply not common, not for a drink, not for a bachelors party, not for what have you.

*I am not speaking for eastern or southern Europe as my experience doesn't reach that far.

**Granted, the USA I only "know" from the board, the media and Hollywood.

[Balefont]

As referred to earlier - the Dutch are easily the most judgemental people on this planet.

And why is that? Does the Dutch media culture repress judgmentalism? Hmmm? Well? Is that why the Dutch people feel the need to be so judgmental?

[Lady Luffa]

And why is that? Does the Dutch media culture repress judgmentalism? Hmmm? Well? Is that why the Dutch people feel the need to be so judgmental?

It's probably because we're squashed so closely together in this little country, that one can't help looking inside ones neighbours windows.

[Balefont]

It's probably because we're squashed so closely together in this little country, that one can't help looking inside ones neighbours windows.

o.O creeeepy

Pfft, and we're the perverts. Nice. :tantrum:

[Lord O' Bones]

Since the Dutch were among the first Euro's to hang out in Japan, you'd think they'd have learned how to deal with this by now.

[Kalbear]

I believe that this is not the case as weird as it may seem.

Not specifically in Vegas (though it might as well be; it's essentially decriminalized), but certainly easily obtainable as part of a trip to Vegas.

[awesome possum]

Thanks, cant. I will wear my "Pervert Badge" proudly.

But if I'm a pervent, pray tell what the fuck are you?

There are never hidden reasons for someone desperate to appear morally superior. No. Never.

I'd agree - that is what I was referring to in my earlier post. Nudity is so much less of a big deal in, from my experience, mainland northwest* and northern Europe that e.g. stripclubs are really not considered particularly interesting or "naughty", but rather a little odd.

*The British Isles are probably an exception when it comes to nudity, but I am still figuring that one out.

I'll never forget living in Liverpool and my flatmates sitting me down to watch Plastic Surgery Live. I saw more tranny cock in twenty minutes than I did the last seven years of going to drag shows a couple times a year with my wife and her friends.

I believe that this is not the case as weird as it may seem.

You're right, but there really should be a wink and a nudge included in that line of the law.

[Cantabile]

Thanks, cant. I will wear my "Pervert Badge" proudly.

But if I'm a pervent, pray tell what the fuck are you?

I'm not saying that everyone that goes to strip bars is some low-life pervert, plenty of people go for various reasons that are fine. But people that go regularly, yeah, I find that perverted and a bit pathetic. As has been stated before, there are far better uses for one's time and money, which is why I associate strip bars with being trashy.

Going a few times in your life = fine

Going on a weekly basis = creepy and crude

[Edda van Heefmstra Ruston]

Better uses... like porn?

[Cantabile]

Everything in moderation. If someone's sitting on their couch and getting drunk while watching porn for hours on end, then that's pretty sickening as well. Strip bars consume more money and time than pornography usually, and you're not even getting a happy ending from the time spent. Sexuality is a fundamental part of human existence, but there's better ways to satisfy those needs than strip bars. It's like the fast food of sexuality: sure lots of people do it, but it's disgusting and detrimental.

[Kalbear]

Sexuality is a fundamental part of human existence, but there's better ways to satisfy those needs than strip bars. It's like the fast food of sexuality: sure lots of people do it, but it's disgusting and detrimental.

Wait, you're negative on strip clubs using words like disgusting and detrimental but you're totally fine with porn?

I think that you've missed the entire thread. Strip clubs don't have a ton to do with sexuality and have much more to do with human interaction. You're saying that it's more unhealthy to interact with an honest, real person than it is to watch a movie? Really?

Strip clubs are in no way 'fast food', either. You can't spend 5 minutes downloading and wacking off. It's not cheap or free. It's often expensive, there are often drinks and conversations, you often go in a group and you spend hours doing it. How is that 'fast'? It's not convenient (you have to go there, bring actual cash and you don't tend to get a happy ending), it's not cheap, and it's certainly not something you eat in your car (unless your car has a stripper pole, in which case AWWWW YEAH).

This is just inane. I understand that you enjoy your perversions and think others are horrible, but the arguments you're using are flat-out idiotic and self-defeating.

[Cantabile]

You're acting off the assumption that every aspect of the analogy was supposed to fit.

Fast food = gross and unhealthy

Strip bars = gross and unhealthy

That's all I was conveying

[Spastic Plastic]

Strip clubs don't have a ton to do with sexuality and have much more to do with human interaction.

Bull. Shit.

Sure, human interaction is a part of going to a strip joint, but that's not why people go there.

[Balefont]

Wait, you're negative on strip clubs using words like disgusting and detrimental but you're totally fine with porn?

Yes, because he doesn't go to strip clubs (because his wife would castrate him and has a better chance of finding out about it) but he does use porn so porn is okay.

It's completely logical, kal. You're usually pretty perceptive and astute. I'm surprised you missed that point.

[Cantabile]

Not going to strip clubs has nothing to do with "being caught" The very concept of them is repulsive to me, and I have enough class to never set foot in one. If others enjoy them, fine, but don't act like they're a benefit to mankind or some romantic nonsense. Pollution is pollution regardless of how many people want to bathe in it.

[TerraPrime]

Not going to strip clubs has nothing to do with "being caught" The very concept of them is repulsive to me, and I have enough class to never set foot in one. If others enjoy them, fine, but don't act like they're a benefit to mankind or some romantic nonsense. Pollution is pollution regardless of how many people want to bathe in it.

:rofl:

It's like this rabbit hole has no bottom....

[IheartTesla]

What's in Vegas? Strip clubs, gambling, sports betting, violent fights, smoking, drinking, legal prostitution, weird shows, big ticket items and things, and in general a big ol 'fuck you' to things like fiscal responsibility, morals and ethical conduct.

Actually, prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas. I'm pretty sure this is the case. The legal brothels are all outside the city limits in remote rural areas (wikipedia assures me this is the case).

Edit: I see this has already been answered. Since my post must have a point, yay strip clubs. I am a low class individual anyways.

[TerraPrime]

Actually, prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas. I'm pretty sure this is the case. The legal brothels are all outside the city limits in remote rural areas (wikipedia assures me this is the case).

On paper, still illegal.

In practice? I dunno. Never been there. But it would not surprise me at all that enforcement of the anti-prostitution laws is pretty lax in Las Vegas.

[Spastic Plastic]

Cantabile, you're being a tad bit hypocritical.

I'll stop criticizing people who go to strip clubs. I've been to them myself, and I might step into one again in the future.

But what I find weird is when some people on this board go great lengths to explain how strip clubs are all about a good atmosphere and human interaction. At least be honest that you go there to see naked tits.