Verboten Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 When I went to school, they made a law that all kids at the school had to be in the same class, It was not No child left behind but it was like it, Well it required that mental challenged students were to be put in class with regular kids at least 1/2 the day. So the teacher spent more time trying to control that one kid, than teach the rest of the kids in my class. We are allowing the not as smart kids to drag down the smarter ones. Some kids are not going to be rocket scientist, Its just fact. some people are not as smart as others. The world needs janitors tooI was originally going to say something incredibly rude but I will refrain. If you and your classmates could handle the course work without assistance and there was a student who could not, the teacher was entirely right in helping the child who had difficulty. In fact that student could have been far smarter than you or any of your peers, but unable to communicate his needs directly. That was what I was like, I am smart, I have a perfect memory and yet I always did badly in classes because I literally could not make the distinction between 'me' and 'you'. If I knew something I couldn't explain how I got there or why it was right, just that it was right. I was often accused of cheating. Other kids either pitied me, made fun of me, or let me hang around because I was easy to manipulate. I got into a lot of fights. I was too embarrassed to tell anyone that there was something wrong with me, that I couldn't see anything in pictures, that I didn't think in words or letters, that I didn't know what math was I was just reciting the answers I'd memorized, or that people looked terrifying especially their eyes or that the sound pencils make on physically hurts. I couldn't tell anyone and because of people like you I stopped trying. So just shut your mouth and leave us 'mentally challenged' alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer420 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I am glad that Raidne and I seem to have very very similar political leanings, cause I'd hate to be called out like this.FWIW slayer, I felt like you started out making dumb points and got more and more reasonable I've the past US politics thread or two. You seem capable of actually allowing a well-argued and well-evidenced claim to influence your opinion or perspective which is INCREDIBLY rare (see: SpicyTurkey).(null)Thanks, I look at a place like this to learn from other people, I was a little shocked how far left this board was, but then once I started thinking about it, It makes since because of all the non-american posters here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer420 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I was originally going to say something incredibly rude but I will refrain. If you and your classmates could handle the course work without assistance and there was a student who could not, the teacher was entirely right in helping the child who had difficulty. In fact that student could have been far smarter than you or any of your peers, but unable to communicate his needs directly. That was what I was like, I am smart, I have a perfect memory and yet I always did badly in classes because I literally could not make the distinction between 'me' and 'you'. If I knew something I couldn't explain how I got there or why it was right, just that it was right. I was often accused of cheating. Other kids either pitied me, made fun of me, or let me hang around because I was easy to manipulate. I got into a lot of fights. I was too embarrassed to tell anyone that there was something wrong with me, that I couldn't see anything in pictures, that I didn't think in words or letters, that I didn't know what math was I was just reciting the answers I'd memorized, or that people looked terrifying especially their eyes or that the sound pencils make on physically hurts. I couldn't tell anyone and because of people like you I stopped trying. So just shut your mouth and leave us 'mentally challenged' alone..When I say "mentally challenged" I mean the kid could not even talk but was put in with regular students. it did not benefit him or the rest of the class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Thanks, I look at a place like this to learn from other people, I was a little shocked how far left this board was, but then once I started thinking about it, It makes since because of all the non-american posters here.Why does it make sense that non-Americans are "far left"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukelavee Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Verb - "If you and your classmates could handle the course work without assistance and there was a student who could not, the teacher was entirely right in helping the child who had difficulty"Well, how do you know that the rest of the students didn't need any help? You don't. But, if the "special needs" student requires teh full attention of the sole teacher, than the other 20-30 children are getting none. And, trust me, no class is ever lacking in kids that need some help.What if the special student is prone to violence? Is that fair? Or constantly makes loud noises, is that fair?On the other hand, if that one student is in a class with only 1 teacher, and that's it... that's not fair either. That student should have extra help in the form of at least an aide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verboten Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 .When I say "mentally challenged" I mean the kid could not even talk but was put in with regular students. it did not benefit him or the rest of the class.So? What does that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verboten Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Verb - "If you and your classmates could handle the course work without assistance and there was a student who could not, the teacher was entirely right in helping the child who had difficulty"Well, how do you know that the rest of the students didn't need any help? You don't. But, if the "special needs" student requires teh full attention of the sole teacher, than the other 20-30 children are getting none. And, trust me, no class is ever lacking in kids that need some help.What if the special student is prone to violence? Is that fair? Or constantly makes loud noises, is that fair?On the other hand, if that one student is in a class with only 1 teacher, and that's it... that's not fair either. That student should have extra help in the form of at least an aide.Not to them or to to the student. Life is never fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevonicus Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 .When I say "mentally challenged" I mean the kid could not even talk but was put in with regular students. it did not benefit him or the rest of the class.I find it horrifying that you can refer to a human being as an 'it'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer420 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Why does it make sense that non-Americans are "far left"?Being an american, I have a different view that you, as what is far left or right. All I was saying was that you have to look at what’s around someone, I am from Middle american which is about as far right as it gets in american so here I would be labeled "radical" and far left. but in lets say on the coast of the US I would be labeled radical and far right. Just depends where you are at in the world was all I was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer420 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I find it horrifying that you can refer to a human being as an 'it'.You need to reread what I said. It as in being in the regular class. I never called the kid it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevonicus Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 You need to reread what I said. It as in being in the regular class. I never called the kid it.Sorry, I must have misread that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer420 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I was originally going to say something incredibly rude but I will refrain. If you and your classmates could handle the course work without assistance and there was a student who could not, the teacher was entirely right in helping the child who had difficulty. In fact that student could have been far smarter than you or any of your peers, but unable to communicate his needs directly. That was what I was like, I am smart, I have a perfect memory and yet I always did badly in classes because I literally could not make the distinction between 'me' and 'you'. If I knew something I couldn't explain how I got there or why it was right, just that it was right. I was often accused of cheating. Other kids either pitied me, made fun of me, or let me hang around because I was easy to manipulate. I got into a lot of fights. I was too embarrassed to tell anyone that there was something wrong with me, that I couldn't see anything in pictures, that I didn't think in words or letters, that I didn't know what math was I was just reciting the answers I'd memorized, or that people looked terrifying especially their eyes or that the sound pencils make on physically hurts. I couldn't tell anyone and because of people like you I stopped trying. So just shut your mouth and leave us 'mentally challenged' alone.It explains alot that you think of yourself as mentally challenged thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Lord of Winterfell Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Slayer, do not be intimidated by this motley collection of muddle-headed leftists. One decent conservative can fend them off quite easily typing with just one finger on a Blackberry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraPrime Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Slayer, do not be intimidated by this motley collection of muddle-headed leftists. One decent conservative can fend them off quite easily typing with just one finger on a Blackberry.Cool. Can I meet him/her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormund Ukrainesbane Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Why does it make sense that non-Americans are "far left"? It doesn't. Europeans, on the American scale, are "far left", so are the Japanese, and Australians for the most part. Indonesians, Pakistanis, and Argentines are like to the right (for the most part) on the American scale.The British would consider the Danes "far left" for the most part, and the Danes would consider Cubans so far to the left that they are back on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I didn't say it didn't make sense. I simply asked for an explanation from the poster as to why he throught it was so self-evident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrim Fox Cauthon Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Welcome to the board. I see you have met Raidne. She's a bitch huh?But she's our bitch! No, wait. That doesn't sound right somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevonicus Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 But she's our bitch! No, wait. That doesn't sound right somehow.I'm sure she appreciates the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verboten Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 It explains alot that you think of yourself as mentally challenged thought.I'm not mentally challenged I'm autistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verboten Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Either way, it's nothing to be ashamed of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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