White Neighbor Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 It just strikes me as odd that the apocalyptic army of snow elves; the hammer of winter. Only seems to affect Westeros. I mean seasons don't run by continent, surely it should have been mentioned in Danys POV that it was getting colder in Essos but in fact theres talk of drought in the Dothraki sea? Is there any particular reason for this? Surely if the Others are a seasonal threat they would be a global phenomenum and not just local to Westeros?Or do you think Martins gonna surprise us and have the Others invade Essos before they cross the wall? :shocked:Maybe they got sick of Dany taking her sweet time and decide they'll come to her instead.... let's not forget the landscape here...maybe they came the first time and yet again now because of some sort of cosmic phenomenon or planetary alignment that produces the long night regardless of them but being from the heart of winter where theirs lives can be substain they couldn't come that far south unless it's a freakish long night ....Has for the sailing post ...lol...they just freeze the narrow sea at their will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard of Walton Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 I believe they will be once they pass the Wall. Wights will be rising all over the World. The giant fortresses in the TWOIAF book (I forget where they are) makes me believe they once threatened Essos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrorVoid Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Actually weren't the others defeated long before they have entered the continent? They do not seem to bother anyone except Northerners in Westeross either.It is heavily implied that they were defeated at the Winterfell, thus they would hardly have a chance to get so far south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSovereignGrave Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 If the Others were in Essos, they'd probably be in the Far Far East, beyond the Five Forts (my money would be on them living within the Grey Waste). So we wouldn't really know about them due to their being on the very edge of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Grumpy Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 The doom of Men will come from Westeros.Thats what Valyrians believed. Maybe they were referring the Others? Winter effects other lands.We don't know the Others' endgame so...who knows if they will or want to cross the Narrow Sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of the Vale Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 They are seperated by the narow sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalerionTheCat Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 According to TWoIaF, the Five Forts where to protect the men from the demons of the Grey Wastes. When the winter will expand in south Essos, we may see Others coming from the northeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ummester Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 It just seems less apocalyptic if only one small part of the world is affected. This has been billed as Ragnarok. Don't forget that in the Ragnarok the giant wolves, ice giants led by Surtr and world serpent all attack Midgard to destroy the gods. In ASoIaF Midgard would be Kings Landing, the gods would be all people who take faith in the 7, the wolves would be the Stark kids, Jon would be Surtr, the Others would be the Ice Giants and Dany would be the world serpent. Essos would be kind of irrelevant, because it isn't Midgard and the gods don't live there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hempflower Knight Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Not sure why it is hard to imagine. To my mind, the Long Night is not too different from a nuclear winter type scenario, or minor variation on snowball earth. I can definitely see all of the coastal sea lands freezing, all the way down to the Arm of Dorne, and across to Essos. This combined with the fact the others seem to bring the cold with them, seems be enough for them to get to Essos. Plus we dont really know the extent of the Other's Ice magic, so maybe creating a temporary bridge of ice would be within their power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimJames Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 The Others can't reach Essos because they have no way of crossing the Shivering Sea. Obviously there are Others in the White Waste, but they seem to be blocked by the large ocean north of Braavos and Loreath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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