Robb Knightfrost Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 This was also the beginning of Dany's hallucinations, it may not have been the real Quaithe. I honestly doubt it was since she was talking to grass and seeing Jorah as well. Not sure how reliable that description can really be when she's gone cuckoo for cocoa puffsAlso bear in mind that when prophetic things happen, there is usually something else seemingly mundane or easilly explained/interpreted thrown right in there with it. This happens a lot with Dany.( House of the Undying visions for a good example.) The Ghost of High Heart for another example,' I dreamt I saw a shadow with a burning heart butchering a golden stag, aye. I dreamt of a man without a face, waiting on a bridge that swayed and swung. On his shoulder perched a drowned crow with seaweed hanging from his wings.I dreamt of a roaring river, and a woman who was a fish. Dead she drifted, with red tears on her cheeks, but when her eyes did open, oh, I woke from terror.” Also, I expected to see the Ted from Bill&Ted meme. Disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolGirlsMurderFriend Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Also bear in mind that when prophetic things happen, there is usually something else seemingly mundane or easilly explained/interpreted thrown right in there with it. This happens a lot with Dany.( House of the Undying visions for a good example.) The Ghost of High Heart for another example,' I dreamt I saw a shadow with a burning heart butchering a golden stag, aye. I dreamt of a man without a face, waiting on a bridge that swayed and swung. On his shoulder perched a drowned crow with seaweed hanging from his wings.I dreamt of a roaring river, and a woman who was a fish. Dead she drifted, with red tears on her cheeks, but when her eyes did open, oh, I woke from terror.” Also, I expected to see the Ted from Bill&Ted meme. Disappointed.But nothing on this level, Dany was in full blown hallucinations for days. I think everyone would agree she was just dreaming of Quaithe in that instance, so why take it at 100% that her mask is ALWAYS like that when Dany fell asleep looking at the stars, which had also been whispering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faint Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I remain convinced she wears the mask because if her features were described by Daenerys we would know her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolGirlsMurderFriend Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I remain convinced she wears the mask because if her features were described by Daenerys we would know her.I can definitely agree with that. I still say it'd be so much more interesting to never find out who it was heheh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_ba Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 probably she is Shiera Seastar, as she sees Quaithe's mask made of stars in the chapter where she has her last dragon vision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolGirlsMurderFriend Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 probably she is Shiera Seastar, as she sees Quaithe's mask made of stars in the chapter where she has her last dragon visionWhat is a dragon vision? Are you saying there's another mention of this outside of the final chapter of ADWD when Dany is hallucinating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zabuza Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I can definitely agree with that. I still say it'd be so much more interesting to never find out who it was heheh.Like Oberyn poisoning Tywin, i'll crap in one ear and listen out for confirmation with the other... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb Knightfrost Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 it may also have just been Quaithe appearing to Dany in a mystic fashion, the starlight having no signifgance.I do like the idea of her being a familiar character if she were to be described unmaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerGrahamando ofUttershill Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Does she not just wear a mask as this is the custom in Asshai? Not everything has to be more than it seems. And some questions are best left unanswered. Quaithe would cease to be interesting if we knew all about her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolGirlsMurderFriend Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I agree, i'm sick to death of all the secret identities. ASoIaF now has more characters with alter egos than the comic book industry >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faint Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 probably she is Shiera Seastar, as she sees Quaithe's mask made of stars in the chapter where she has her last dragon visionTo me that points more in the direction of Ashara Dayne.I agree, i'm sick to death of all the secret identities. ASoIaF now has more characters with alter egos than the comic book industry >.<In fairness, this was established early on. The series has made clear its love of the secret identity trope and I don't imagine it will prove productive to hope it will change now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolGirlsMurderFriend Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 To me that points more in the direction of Ashara Dayne.In fairness, this was established early on. The series has made clear its love of the secret identity trope and I don't imagine it will prove productive to hope it will change now.Not really, fans established this. Very few are actually confirmed. There are theories and there are confirmed theories ;)As for the other quote, im pretty sure theyre just bringing up what we've been discussing for the last few pages lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizasterJ Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Does she not just wear a mask as this is the custom in Asshai? Not everything has to be more than it seems. And some questions are best left unanswered. Quaithe would cease to be interesting if we knew all about her.Please show me where it says that wearing masks is a custom of people in Asshai. Secondly, I think Quaithe would become much more interesting if we just knew a couple more details about her. Right now she's much too ambiguous for people to really care. Unfortantely, this just seems like a case of bad or lazy writing, and Quaithe is a char that GRRM has very little to no idea what he wants to actually do with, or he was merely using her as a plot device, or He changed his mind about her purpose and now he is really struggling with what to do next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion of Judah Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Wait. Where did the time machine come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Stargaryen Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 But nothing on this level, Dany was in full blown hallucinations for days. I think everyone would agree she was just dreaming of Quaithe in that instance, so why take it at 100% that her mask is ALWAYS like that when Dany fell asleep looking at the stars, which had also been whispering?I looked for you on the Trident... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamSongs Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Possible proof of time travel in ADWD Tyrion chapter V when they are passing through the sorrows they pass under the same bridge twice in a river that only flows in one direction and have no explanation for why it happened.Thanx for pointing that out. I had totally forgotten about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mother of The Others Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 interesting idea, Topic!We know that trees can accomplish this kind of time travel thing, so why not deserts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erudain Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 wait....IIRC Dany has 3 dragons, where did she get the DeLorean from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Others Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 There are theories about Quaithe and time travel but... Does it really matter who she is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizasterJ Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Thanx for pointing that out. I had totally forgotten about that.Is it time travel or teleportation / magic? Im more inclined to believe it was teleportation or an illusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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