Ittiz Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Well GRRM did say that what took him so long with ADWD was untangling the "Meerenese Knot" Then TWOW shouldn't take as long. Assuming that he succeeded in untangling it rather than figuring out to postpone untangling it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuchandMore Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 It saddens me that 2014 is actually GOOD news. :bang: If it were to come out saaaayyyyyy tomorrow! THAT would be good news. The book is possibly more that 2 years away! Then I'll read it in 2 weeks and then wait ANOTHER 4 years. This is absoluetly the LAST series of books I read a WORD of before its all done. The book just doesn't seem to be a priority of his IMO. He is appearing EVERYWHERE...does interviews and whatnots every other day...and has the show only LOOSELY based on his work to deal with. How does he have time to write at all? I just don't understand. I don't mean to sound like a dick....but seriously...I don't understand! Won't there be plenty of time for all these interviews and shows and conventions AFTER the 2 remaining books are done????2014....pfft........hope I still care by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachoknight Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 I'll hope for 2014, expect 2015, and be satisfied with 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseLark Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 I've wondered if that's the absolute physical limit or if it's just what the publisher is comfortable with in terms of cost vs. pricing. Because there have certainly been other novels published in the last few decades with longer word counts.Not many. AFFC and ADWD are hefty tomes to cart around for those of us who like to read on the fly - and are still wedded to actual books rather than e-readers.I'm expecting something around around ACOK length. The story should be tighter by now, all the plots look to have a clear purpose and plausible and swift resolutions are available for all of them. So 2014 is definitely achievable but if I have one reservation it is that GRRMs publishers will want to release it to tie in with the end of a season of the TV show for publicity purposes and a mid-2014 date may be a tad too soon. For that reason alone the date could slip to mid-2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 [mod] Again: this thread is not about the TV series. It's about the release date of TWOW, and specifically about the information about that date in the interview in the OP.Any more off-topic posts and the topic will have to be closed. [/mod] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magjee Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 George doesn't really say it's coming in 2014. He indicates that it won't be this year, it won't be next year, but he hopes that 2014 could happen. It's not a deadline, it's a hope.At the same round table, he indicates that he has about 200 pages more-or-less in final form, but also about 200 pages in partial form, which none of the Spanish media seem to be noting.You can watch the round table interview (use headphones, audio is quite low) at the SSM collectionThanks for link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Towers Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 "...pero el dÃa tiene 24 horas, me quedan dos tochos y hay quien dice que voy lento""...but the day has 24 hours, I have two books left, and there are those who say I'm going too slow"I wonder who are this people that are complaining about his writing speed... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grip Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 If it comes out in 2014 I would be pleasently surprised, its not that long to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arataniello Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 People here have shockingly short memories. Look at how long it took Dance to finally get written. I am surprised that GRRM even mentioned any kind of date whatsoever in an interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Baratheon Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I can't wait that long. I'm one of those lucky fellows who started the series in 2012, and am not used to waiting =| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuthbert Allgood Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 About waiting: been there done that with The Dark Tower books. Waiting after Wizard& Glass was painfull (6-7 years iirc)..but it thought me something: I'd rather wait than to get an avarage-disappointing book. S. King wrote and released BOOK 5,6 and 7 in 3 years (first 4 books took like 18 years) and boy, last 3 sucked. Lost plot points, ridicilous conclusions, stupid page fillers.. if the price of getting AOIAF books faster is THAT, no thanks, I have plenty of other books to read thanks to Wertzone and Aidan Moher.I am also not too woried about (even writing this shames me) GRRM dying before series end, sure it would hurt a lot but I learned appreciating unfinished storylines too, after Carnivalé :) -though I'm sure if it happened they would just hire someone and make him finish the remaining books, this cow is way too fat not to milk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Manwoody Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I think he'll get the last two finished quicker. He ulimately ended up changing his original plan of a time lapse filled in with flashbacks when he wrote AFFC and ADWD, so I suspect those two will likely be the most difficult ones for him to write.Now that the story is set for people and events to converge, I think the writing may move quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Baratheon Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 It's a dark thing to speak of, but does GRRM have anybody who he's trained/taught himself and who he will give author's rights of the series to in case he dies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 That question has been asked, and answered in the negative, in various interviews that are available online (in the SSM, for a start). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittiz Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 It's a dark thing to speak of, but does GRRM have anybody who he's trained/taught himself and who he will give author's rights of the series to in case he dies?I seem to remember hearing that he said he wouldn't allow anyone else to finish the series in case of his death. So lets hope he doesn't procrastinate too much on releasing the next book. Although I think HBO would write the end without him if they had to, but that would just stink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wouter Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 That question has been asked, and answered in the negative, in various interviews that are available online (in the SSM, for a start).Robert Jordan also used to answer the same question in the negative, very much so even. Still, when push came to shove, he changed his mind and supported Brandon Sanderson (who has been doing a sterling job with it, to). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingoopah Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 so if he has 200 pages done and given he's saying 2014, I would imagine something in the neighborhood of 700+ pages will be the goal for Winds of Winter, if he's planning to do 200 pages per year? That sounds a bit light, given that ADWD was 1000+ pages and there a tons of plot lines to finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Martin has in fact allowed that if was terminally ill, he may rethink things.But presently, if he gets hit by a bus tomorrow, there are no provisions in place for someone else to continue the novels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonin Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I'm older than GRRM, I need him to write faster :drunk: ... I am somewhat worried that GRRM has lost control of the story arcs... There are lots of plots to finish... I am not sure it can be completed in two more books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Hodor Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I'd be happy with a 2014 release date.In the meantime at least there will be new episodes of GOT every year, and hopefully some more Dunk and Egg adventures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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