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  1. This show has turned into a major disappointment. Lorca was the most interesting character, by a longshot. While it was predicted that he probably came from the MU, having both this and the Ash/Voq thing as well as having Lorca turn into Trump makes for a "jump the shark" moment for me. I won't be watching this series any longer.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    We still don't know for sure the battle of Winterfell is between human forces. Those pictures and video weren't that definite. Either there are at least three big battles (NK vs human army, KL and Winterfell between humans) or the NK has to be the attacker either in Winterfell or in KL. Or there is no big battle in KL at all (being burned by dragonfire may not count as a big battle in this sense, allthough it would mean CGI budget instead), which would leave room for 2 major battles (Winterfell and one elsewhere).
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    Which may point to an endgame battle between Cersei and Jon/Dany (assuming those have both survived the NK)? It seems unlikely the NK would go for a protracted siege in a place like KL, which isn't as strong as most castles and can be taken by storm.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    As for Jon and Dany: I don't think that meeting was done that badly. I think it's correct that they would't be best friends at first sight, and the evolution over the course of the season seemed OK to me. Supersonic messengers and dragons aside, I could believe it when he decided to accept her as queen. As for Sansa, they could have done a lot better with her in Winterfell, especially last season with LF and Arya. While I think her part in the last episode was thrilling, much was sacrificed in the earlier episodes in order to trick the audience into thinking she could actually kill Arya (not too many people were fooled, I think).
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    Agreed on the point of the granaries. What is, in this context, considered to be the most important meeting in the series? But that would have meant that Sansa would need to get her own supporting cast in the Vale, so she can have an arc there (much like in the books, where Sansa is learning the ropes). And D&D have been wanting to diminish the number of characters/actors, since S4 IIRC. Allthough I regret that Sansa's Vale storyline was mostly dumped (I suspect LF's death is a leftover from that storyline), it may not have been the wrong decision considering how GRRM's ever widening focus is working out for him in the books.
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    Shows that said goodbye in 2017

    Dark Matter had 3 seasons made (out of 5 planned for). It got similar ratings to Killjoys, but due to not being fully owned by SyFy, Killjoys was renewed and Dark Matter wasn't. It was a show with interesting characters and it was preplanned to some extent (plans did get changed along the way), certainly worth a watch. I personally liked the first season (when the characters and setting were fresh and mysterious) the best.
  7. Excellent movie, if a bit long. The story is relatively simple, but then we have a blockbuster movie without serious, obvious plot holes here. Villeneuve is a director to watch. I hope Blade Runner 2049 gets some kind of nod at the Oscars.
  8. I think it's very likely that Rey subconsciously was already using the force, not only while scavenging but also while fighting (with the staff). If she can see her opponent's move coming - possibly even before these opponents commit to it - then that would help explain why her reputation on Jakku is such that a rival scavenger is intimidated into giving up BB8 without a fight. I agree though that a clear (and rather more positive) relationship between Unkar and Rey should have been established. TFA kind of contradicts itself here, on the one hand Unkar doesn't seem to care in the least about Rey (she's just one of many trying to sell scavenged goods) but on the other hand she has had previous access to his possessions, such as the Falcon. TLJ makes this worse by implying she was sold to Unkarr - why did he want to pay for her unless he saw something useful in her? And if he did, why wasn't their relationship much closer? Another point: Rey had access to an Imperial Walker (that was her home on Jakku, IIRC) and to at least one Imperial Star Destroyer. Allthough largely plundered by her fellow scavengers, some useful bits (technical documentation, other books, or indeed pilot training programs) may still have been hidden on those things. Given the context of the "chosen one", it's not a stretch to suppose the force could have lead her to find what others may have missed.
  9. Didn't the villain(s) won in this one? The resistance forces have been reduced to the amount of people that can fit in the Falcon. At best, some seeds for a rebellion in 20 or so years have been laid. If there was no episode 9, it would be a rather bleak ending.
  10. Different definitations of "conservative", I suppose. Politicians who are considered to be "conservative" in my country (admittedly usually by opponents) seem to show about as much emotion as people who call themselves "progressive". I'm not well versed in ideological debate, anyway. What I disagree with is the coupling of such values as "suppression of emotion" (especially to the point of the prequel Jedi's, who took this to extremes) with the value of learning. I guess deeply religious people would often be considered as conservatives (in most cases), and some of those see no value in learning because they already know everything thanks to the religious texts. No education for girls, no education leading to anything that can challenge the holy word. OTOH, lots of people see the need for decent education (with the effort this requires) without being "conservative" in the way you describe it. And to repeat what has been mentioned in this thread a couple of times: Rey does give the impression of having good work ethics, she seems to either be self-trained as a scavenger or to have picked up things from whomever would be willing to teach her. She also wants to learn, it is Luke who is not inclined to train her and even then we see her training and saving the Jedi texts. I don't see her as a "slacker" in any way. She does go to Kylo in the end against Luke's explicit advice, but then this was the same in the OT with Luke leaving against Yoda's wishes. But they still made Kylo go out of his way to kill without mercy: the inhabitants of the village where Poe was captured, his father, the "no quarter" order for the remaining resistance members. This hardly makes him morally compelling, he's still the bad guy to be rooted against (except when fighting even worse guys, like Snoke). They are not, which means they are not tied down to some of the more ridiculous Sith conventions. Likewise, Rey may be more open to using the "dark side" of the Force than earlier Jedi were. It's up to Abrams to decide if this would be possible (with or without undesirable side effects, such as getting evil). Video games like KOTOR and the Jedi Knight series have toyed with this in the past. Taking the two quotes above together: I often hear "anyone can now be a Force user!" but this isn't true! The Ratatouille line is more accurate: a great Force user can come from anywhere. But it should be kept in mind that Rey was still very priviliged by her birth, which granted her immense abilities to use the Force without any merit on her side (even if she later turns out to be very capable in many respects). Finn, Rose, Poe, Hux and co: if they are not born with this ability (as the vast majority of the galactic population), they can never use the Force. Rey and Kylo are different because they are the 0,000001% with the ability inborn. Which makes the big hoolah about her not being a "priviliged" Skywalker (mind you, as a scavenger on Jakku) moot. Especially considering that this trilogy is supposed to be about the Skywalkers and that it could have been (IMONSHO) a better story. The need to villify Rey's parents also is a shame. Couldn't they simply have died in an accident on Jakku, even before the events in Rey's infamous Force Vision? This, I can largely agree with. I think a clearer example of this is the excellent reviews many mainstream critics gave to Star Trek Into Darkness, which had a horrible story, cardboard villains, badly thought out plot elements and inept "heroes". But the apparent "message" in the movie (something with US drone attacks, allthough it really didn't have anything to do with the plot of Into Darkness) seemed to be loved and that trumps decent storytelling.
  11. I suspect the Maz Kanata scene was a deliberate dig at the prequels. Maz said: "it's a union conflict. So complicated, I couldn't explain it". For the record, I think the "trade dispute" mechanics of The Phantom Menace were actually in itself a strength of the prequels (which were ultimately not good, mostly because Anakin's turn and the Anakin/Padme relation weren't executed well). This time not a Death Star. As for the astral projection: the Jedi council in the prequels was fooled by Palpatine (and by Anakin), Palpatine was fooled by the Vader/Luke turn, Snoke was fooled by Kylo cleverly abusing his overconfidence. That (emotionally unstable) Kylo himself was then also fooled by Luke is in line with all those events; even the most powerful people sometimes fail to see what's under their nose. Given the reaction of Kylo when he first heard a sniff about a girl helping BB8's escape, as well as some specifics from Rey's force vision (Kylo, masked and red sabre in hand, turning and moving towards her in the vision) and Kylo holding back in their fight at the end of TFA, I suspect that either there is some kind of relation between Kylo and Rey (apparently not according to TLJ, but it's up to Abrams) or Kylo had some kind of vision about her before he ever laid eyes on her. Snoke and Kylo did talk about an "awakening", but they didn't seem to know that it was specifically the girl involved in BB8's escape. Rey being a straightforward hero, rather than a deeply conflicted antihero who acts "grey", actually seems more like an old-school thing to me. It's par for the course in Star Wars, anyway, as Luke was much the same in the OT. Such a larger-than-life wishful thinking hero is fine for Star Wars, IMO. It is supposed to be a fun, escapist movie. I don't agree that Rey has no discipline, though. Rey was shown from the beginning as an accomplished scavenger, able to navigate dangerous surroundings (like the decrepit Star Destroyer) while coming back alive with the required booty. She was shown to have acquired skill in fighting as well, with the staff. We may not have seen her train with that per se, but then we didn't see Obi-Wan train with his lightsabre in the original movie (nor Qui-Gon or Obi-Wan in The Phantom Menace). We may simply assume they are good because they trained. In this movie, it is Rey who explicitly asks to learn, Rey who is seen training herself (with the sabre, at least) when Luke is less than forthcoming and Rey who saves the (very small) Jedi archive (in a place where people can actually read them, rather than on a pedestal hidden from everyone). And it is Rey who risks her life for a chance to save and turn Kylo, much like Luke once did for Vader. We don't see Rey making much mistakes, but over both movies she does get captured by Kylo in TFA, owned by Snoke in TLJ and she also misreads Kylo's state of mind in TLJ (Luke arguably being in the right with his view on that). And we do see some doubts as well, one instance in either movie. Did Luke really have much more failures and/or doubt than that? They're both supposed to be white heroes, larger-than-life. I would also argue that the Jedi of the prequels lost Anakin exactly because of their stupid rules concerning emotions. The prequels made a decent case that the Jedi of that time were hardly any better than the Sith (which have their own stupid dogma's). I don't see emotion as either a conservative or progressive value; every human has emotion and most people tend to show it.
  12. People are simply scared to hell. Starkiller base is far worse as a terror weapon, compared to the Death Star. It can strike several places at once, from distances of many lightyears, and it picks off entire planets along with any fleets in orbit. If my enemies had such a weapon, I would not join a rebellion against it, if I was ruling a world within its reach. And how many people know/truly believe it was destroyed? The First Order probably did not advertise this and claims from the resistance may not be believed.
  13. I'd still argue that part of Rey's force vision in The Force Awakens (her apparent "family" leaving in a ship) is inconsistent with the particular claim made by Kylo in The Last Jedi - while Rey's "they were nobodies" is OK, Kylo's "junkies who sold you for drinking money and who died in a junkers desert" (or something like that, going by unreliable memory) does not ring true to me. I also feel that The Force Awakens played up a personal band between Rey and Kylo, with him being focused on "the girl" as soon as she was mentioned, in what seemed a personal way to me. I wonder/hope there will be an explanation in ep9 for why Kylo reacted to "early rumours" of Rey in the way he did. Otherwise I agree with you on the general assesment of the movie. The casino plot weighs down what is otherwise a good movie. I also think though, that it is a shame they didn't do the logical thing for the chase: multiple jumps with the First Order following every time (as BSG did in its famous episode "33"), until the final confrontation. Most people seem to like the parts between Kylo, Rey and Luke (in any combination).
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    The Last Jedi, not the last spoiler thread

    Apparently, this was the ship which Rey saw flying away in The Force Awakens (I don't know the source; it's labelled "family ship", implying it was owned by her family, or at least supposed to be when this sketch was made): http://i.imgur.com/JP75vLr.jpg Does not really match those junkies who died in a desert, and since they went to the trouble of designing the thing I guess there was originally more significance to it. Allthough I don't object to Rey's parents not being famous, I think Disney is treating this the wrong way. Almost everybody's parents are "nobodies", by their definition. None of us is heartbroken that we aren't sons/daughters of presidents or rock stars, I'm fairly sure. The point is that they abandoned her, apparently because they didn't care about her. That's the implication that should hurt Rey, not how famous or unfamous her parents were. Besides, in "The Force Awakens" she was only concerned with her family's return, and she initially ran away from "destiny" in the form of the force visions. Also, Rey may not be born of famous parents, but that doesn't mean everbody can do what she did or become what she is becoming. She has a very rare ability that she was born with, so it's still her birth that privileges her. This was true for Luke Skywalker as well, even at the time he wasn't yet supposed to be Vader's son. When she says at the beginning of the movie "it's a force that Jedi have (and others, by implication, don't have)" she is far closer to the truth then Luke cares to admit. The Force may be everywhere, but only a very small percentage of Force users can tap into it.
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    The Last Jedi, not the last spoiler thread

    Adult Rey sees her younger self, looking up at the ship thundering off, in her vision inside Maz Kanata's place. As she is looking, the vision changes to black (in space, presumably) with the ship and a red sun visible. At least the suggestion is there. Besides, even if it was only an aerial transport, that's still nothing for empoverished junkies. How many on Earth sell their child(ren) for some pocket money and then take off in a 747? Maybe. Maz did tell her that her family wouldn't come back, and that she knew it. On the other hand, if she was sold and she knew it, then her view towards her parents as an elder and hardened girl (very capable at surviving) should have changed from longing to anger and dismissal, it seems to me. On another site, I just read a claim that an earlier draft for episode 7 (possible the Arndt screenplay that was discarded) had Rey as a Solo and/or Skywalker, and that the eventual movie may still have retained elements that pointed to this while the decision had already been taken not to take her in that direction. One suggestion for Kylo's knowledge is that Snoke could have planted a vision when he was arranging the long range force "skyping" for Rey and Kylo. I would still like an explanation for why Kylo acted as if he had a good idea what Rey was, from the moment word reached his ears that a girl had helped BB8 escape. Both movies play up a connection between Kylo and Rey, without any explanation. That their last contact in TLJ had both (force)tugging at Anakin's old lightsabre may be symbolic. This lightsabre "called to" Rey in Maz Kanata's place and it was the weapon of Kylo's great idol. Also the weapon which Luke chose to be in his hand during his long-range projection at the end of the movie.
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