Torke Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Hi all, first time poster. Not sure if this has been suggested before, but I wanted to get the community's thoughts on this. I think the start of Season 3 would be a perfect time to bring in some lore. What do you think of this?Season 3 opens with a flashback to the Tower of Joy and depicts what is known to have happened there. Ned, Howland and crew are featured. This would give a tiny bit of back story since the Reeds have been cast. Not a lot has to go on in the scene, but it should end with the famous "Promise Me, Ned" line. It then flashes to the next scene featuring Jon Snow and Mance Rayder.Doing the Tower of Joy battle would also be a good opportunity to throw Sean Bean a bone, we miss Ned!I'm sure that this is just a pipe dream, given that if this were to happen it may be a solid clue that Ned isn't Jon's father. It would at least give those who haven't read the books a nugget of mystery to think about.Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protar Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Unfortunately I don't think we'll be getting a TOJ scene. They had the opportunity in S1 and for whatever reason they did take it. The only thing I can see happening is having Bran see it in BR's cave when it'll be much closer to the R+L=J reveal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkash Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 I can see season 3 open with Bran:Him and his companions walking through the woods and the meeting with the Reeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crown Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Or we'll start where we left off last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protar Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 I think the season should pick up right were we left off, showing Sam escaping the WW (doubtless it'll just leave him be.) and making his way back to the FOTFM, and then cutting to the next shot right before the fighting begins. Then the fighting can be picked up again at the end of E1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkash Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 I could definitly see it opening with Davos stranted at sea on his rock. A very large shot of the sea, with the dry rock where Davos is shipwrecked could be great ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crown Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 I could definitly see it opening with Davos stranted at sea on his rock. A very large shot of the sea, with the dry rock where Davos is shipwrecked could be great !Yeah, that'll be great aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasant Rebel Leader Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 They will bring the Tower of Joy when it resonates for the TV story. There are several ways such a flashback can be explained in universe, in the worst case, they do it only for the viewers.But when will the Tower of Joy scenes matter? Somewhere in season 6 or later ("blessed be thou that we get so far" ;)), when the plot point of Jons parentage will get central, if it gets central sometimes. The same way they can go back to the House of the Undying's prophecies, namely when they need it for the story.It would be absolutely bad to do a flashback as a season opener when the rest of the season doesn't address the question at all. What storytelling purpose would it have?Instead, I can see scenes like "Davos gets picked out of the water by Sallador who then gives an exposition talk" or a really cold open with "Hoster's Funeral in Riverrun". Namely, strong images, repetition focus and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGuyA Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 The Targaryens are just plain not important as it comes to the prophecy, at least how the TV show is taking it. I don't think tying it in with Jon's parentage is important whatsoever. They do need to address the prophecy and later Jon's heritage, but there's no reason to explicitly tie them or ever explain the Tower of Joy. It just detracts from the current story, which is convoluted enough.Also, I hate how people just assume flashbacks can be put in whenever they want. Constructing a flashback is something that has to flow like the current narrative, but give perspective to something happening at the same moment in "real time". The single flashback they shot, and didn't use, might have worked in a flash sort of manner in relating Eddard's struggle to his brother's death. Ned is dead though, and none of the current characters have anything vital to show that they couldn't quickly explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverx2 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 this goes hand in hand with what ive said in the past,You cant have the show spoil reveals from future books. There will be no definitive proof of jon snows parentage until we have read it in the books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fightbringer Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 it would be confusing and have no particular relevance to the plot line, although i think they did film some flash back scenes for season 1 which i guess they could use at any point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepaliman_7 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 They'll probably open with Davos waking up then move to Sam escaping the Others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tito5601 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 davos shipwrecked can be a cool opening but starting the season with the nights watch defending themselves can be cool too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonAge93 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 The season will most definitely start off with the attack on the FotFM, as a cliffhanger like that, everyone's gonna wanna see the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peko Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Definitely think it'll open with the attack on the Fist. It makes sense to immediately wrap up the cliffhanger at the end of season 2, especially since a very negligible amount of time would have transpired between the march of the undead army and the attack itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camradio Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I think it will start with Samwell just kind of sitting there, shocked, and then a flashback of the NW fighting the wights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSBA Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 The attack on the Fist seems to be the only real contender to open the season. Then again I thought for sure S2 would lead off with Stannis grabbing the sword from the burning pyre.As for the Tower of Joy, I think alot of the more immediate backstory is being saved for a potential Robert's Rebellion season. Odds are Winds still won't be out by the time Season 4 wraps, so they're going to need to do something to make sure they don't hit a wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall Tyrion Lannister! Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Have it the attack at the fist. makes the most snese. then you can cut to Davos on the island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Lemmington Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 While this is a good idea, I have to agree with the others and say that it might be better to continue where season 2 left off-The Fist of the First Men.However, I also hope that we'd see a Tower of Joy flashback somehow, I feel it's easier to explain to the Non-book readers what happened and it would give them a stronger emotional impact if they actually saw that scene. but D&D have already said that they don't want flashbacks though. It'd be interesting to see in the show when Rhaegar starts being important in the storyline, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the Road Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Barristan saving Daenerys would be a good re-introduction to the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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