Brynden Rivers Bloodraven Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I'm sorry if there already was a thread about this, but I was thinking who would be the best king of Westeros and I discovered why Stannis wouldn't:He is so just that he would finish offending every powerful house and the result would be civil war and rebellions.So, what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGriffonReborn Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Not really. If he's punishing someone for a crime they committed it'd be hard to blame him. He's just enforcing the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believe in Stannis Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 i think the opposite i think he may be the best king he is stern but fair, he may bring the realm peace like machiavelli said its better to be feared than loved as long as you are not hated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Nope, I disagree stannis would make a great king. Why would the lords take issue with him enforcing the law? It probably wouldn't affect them since most of them don't commit any crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drunkard Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 So, what do you think?Disagree. Stannis isn't an idiot, he does bend when he has to. He forgave the Stormlords and some Reach lords for supporting Renly, some Northern lords for supporting Robb, yadda yadda. As king, he can lawfully decide when the rules need to change and when they need to be enforced.Anyway, what's wrong with upholding the law? Ned is a lawful character, and he didn't piss off the North entirely, quite the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRedStag Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I disagree. The fact that he is so just is one of the things that could make him a great king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Yea I don't think this was a good critisism, and the title is going to attract lots of haters, I will be standing by.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfellian Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I for one do not think that the reason you are providing is enough proof that he wouldn't make a good King because Stannis's just nature can be both a setback or an asset depending on the circumstances. For example, if keeping the established order of things in King's Landing is what is wanted then Stannis's justice wouldn't be the very next thing as, like you say, is an obstacle for those interested in keeping things as they are. However if there is a consent that change is necessary for Westeros to move forward and that the existing order has to be disrupted for the good of the people then Stannis's just nature might be what is necessary to introduce and enforce changes.Also, I don't think determining a ruler's capability isn't just a matter of listening whatever faults they might have because nobody is perfect. Part of the process is about taking the good with the bad and good and see which one out-weights the other. Also, to take into account what kind of setting will these person be ruling in. Some people are better peace time rulers than they are for wartime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Duncan of Flea Bottom Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Because he doesn't have a sense of humor, hahahahahajust kiddingHe can be fair, but I don't know how it could be with this R'hllor faithpeople won't accept so easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian of the Lhazareen Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Nope, I disagree stannis would make a great king. Why would the lords take issue with him enforcing the law? It probably wouldn't affect them since most of them don't commit any crimes.None of them comit any crimes LOL jokes, Also I have no reason to beleive that his religiouse intolerance will cause the slightest concern in Westeros, especialy seen as the faith are so pacive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harald Hard-Ruler Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Stannis just needs to surround himself with good ministers who give him pragmatic advice in order to balance out his stern nature. For example when he wants to do something extreme like say abolishing prostitution, he needs somebody to tell him the pros and cons of such a move. So far he has seemed willing if reluctant to listen to such advice. He's already starting to do this with Davos, Jon Snow and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 None of them comit any crimes LOL jokes, The only lord I can think of that breaks the law would be cersei. Other then that I can't think of anything. As for his religious intolerance that's a better critisism but that's changing fast and he is not really a staunch believer in religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab aeterno Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 The only lord I can think of that breaks the law would be cersei.There are/were some. They won't really be missed though- Roose, Frey, Tywin, Karstark, etc. If those are the ones being executed, I'll be quite satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian of the Lhazareen Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 The only lord I can think of that breaks the law would be cersei. Other then that I can't think of anything. As for his religious intolerance that's a better critisism but that's changing fast and he is not really a staunch believer in religion.Gregors rape (and others)Tywins invasion of the RiverlandsJaime - attacking Ned and throwing Bran out of a windowLyn Corbray - pretty sure he terorises his small folkWalder Frey - braking guest rightsBoltons - FlayingJorha mormont - slave tradingTyrells - conspiring to murder Joferythe list goes on...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believe in Stannis Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. And some will lose more than the tips off their fingers, I promise you. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that.?"stannis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian of the Lhazareen Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 inside he may not beleive but politacly and publicaly he does and this has caused some problems already, why do you say he is getting better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian of the Lhazareen Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Also does anyone remember what happened to the last king who burnt one of his subjects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drunkard Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 inside he may not beleive but politacly and publicaly he does and this has caused some problems already, why do you say he is getting better?He refuses to burn anyone on the march through the North and he tolerates the Seven worshipping King's Men and the Old God worshipping Northmen in his army. The days of him burning weirwoods just 'cause are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light a wight tonight Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Because he doesn't have a sense of humor, hahahahahajust kiddingHe can be fair, but I don't know how it could be with this R'hllor faithpeople won't accept so easyStannis's R'hllorism is skin deep. He just goes along with Melisandre to keep her support. And he may lose that if Mel starts thinking that Jon, not Stannis, is Azor Ahai Reborn. At his core he isn't at all religious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erudain Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Gregors rape (and others)Tywins invasion of the RiverlandsJaime - attacking Ned and throwing Bran out of a windowLyn Corbray - pretty sure he terorises his small folkWalder Frey - braking guest rightsBoltons - FlayingJorha mormont - slave tradingTyrells - conspiring to murder Joferythe list goes on......Yet somehow none of them would be missed much..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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