John W Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 ....poisoning Joffrey? Will Littlefinger implicate them or vice versa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nojia Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Since Varys supposedly supports Aegon, I think he may implicate them to shift support to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciglon Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I definitely think they will be outed for their crime and will lose support, prestige, and value in the eyes of any future kings because of it (as Mace deserves, never fully committing to any one king or cause fully with their armies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I think Olenna may come to court if she hears that Sansa has been taken to KL to be held on trial for Joffrey's death. Olenna would likely confess when Sansa's death sentence has been declared or she is about to be executed. Cersei will then have Olenna executed on the spot, and put her head on a spike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Every Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I think Olenna may come to court if she hears that Sansa has been taken to KL to be held on trial for Joffrey's death. Olenna would likely confess when Sansa's death sentence has been declared or she is about to be executed. Cersei will then have Olenna executed on the spot, and put her head on a spike.You reckon? Olenna's a sharp old stick, and I can't see her putting herself or any member of her family in jeopardy for Sansa. It's not like they framed her for regicide accidentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zupoleon Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 However it's revealed, I think the Tyrells eventually go over to Aegon's side anyways... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitering Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Well, the only proof may be the hairnet, but that was given to Sansa by Dontos, so, it's just words on the wind really. It's not like KL has rebelled against Tommen despite Stannis public relations campaign incest there, and there is actually visual evidence for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 You reckon? Olenna's a sharp old stick, and I can't see her putting herself or any member of her family in jeopardy for Sansa. It's not like they framed her for regicide accidentally.They intended to frame Tyrion not Sansa, and after he was executed Sansa would be freed and still a maiden, able to be taken to HG and married to Willas.Olenna may have killed Joffrey, but that was to protect her granddaughter. Olenna can be mean and sharp of tongue, but she isn't heartless. I don't think she would live the thought of an innocent girl being killed for a crime that she herself committed.Olenna knows that Cersei still needs the Tyrells, and that she wouldn't kill any further members of her family, including Margaery since Cersei needs Margaery as a hostage after Tommen dies to ensure HG's loyalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Every Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 They intended to frame Tyrion not Sansa, and after he was executed Sansa would be freed and still a maiden, able to be taken to HG and married to Willas.I'm sorry, I'm not convinced, but whether or not they set out to frame Sansa they clearly didn't care too much if she ended up as collateral damage. There's no reason to think that's changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON BANK Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Olenna is to focused on Margery, the power of high garden and getting rid of Cersie to ever step up for Sansa if it came to that. However LF realizes Cersie and the Lannisters are on Their way out, so he will reveal Sansa soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I'm sorry, I'm not convinced, but whether or not they set out to frame Sansa they clearly didn't care too much if she ended up as collateral damage. There's no reason to think that's changed.The evidence against Sansa would have been weak, and before the PW, Olenna told Sansa that she was going to take her to Highgarden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Turtle Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I think they will, because it suits Varys. It even could be that it will be revealed during Margaery's trial. I think that Varys' plan was always to send Tyrells and Lannisters against each other, only Littlefinger was quicker and manipulated Starks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhome Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 deus ex machinaThey are now guestslayers. However much Jeoffry was cruel he was their host. Killing him will curse them as the RW cursed the Freys in the "eyes of the gods" and something will happen to them whether they are caught or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonchoBear Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Joffery wasnt the Tyrells guest, they were his guests. It makes them hostslayers, nobody hates hostslayers. If your stupid enough to invite them in, you deserve what they will do to you. Aerys/Tywin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser El Brocko Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 They intended to frame Tyrion not Sansa, and after he was executed Sansa would be freed and still a maiden, able to be taken to HG and married to Willas.Olenna may have killed Joffrey, but that was to protect her granddaughter. Olenna can be mean and sharp of tongue, but she isn't heartless. I don't think she would live the thought of an innocent girl being killed for a crime that she herself committed.Olenna knows that Cersei still needs the Tyrells, and that she wouldn't kill any further members of her family, including Margaery since Cersei needs Margaery as a hostage after Tommen dies to ensure HG's loyalty.I was under the impression they would have planned to frame Oberyn Martell for Joffrey's death, what with him being a famous poisoner, and the already present animosity between the Tyrells and the Martells, he would have been my first go-to for a scapegoat. He himself thanked Tyrion for taking the fall, as he was aware that he would have been blamed otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSouthEastWesteros Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Joffery wasnt the Tyrells guest, they were his guests. It makes them hostslayers, nobody hates hostslayers. If your stupid enough to invite them in, you deserve what they will do to you. Aerys/Tywin. :agree: Very interested to see what happens with The Queen of Thorns and Sansa... I really want them to reunite! (And Anne Boylen Marge of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealbando Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 However it's revealed, I think the Tyrells eventually go over to Aegon's side anyways...That`s my opinion as well. There`s no way the Tyrell-Lannister alliance will last forever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis the Menace Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I think Olenna may come to court if she hears that Sansa has been taken to KL to be held on trial for Joffrey's death. Olenna would likely confess when Sansa's death sentence has been declared or she is about to be executed. Cersei will then have Olenna executed on the spot, and put her head on a spike.Idt Cersei will live long enough to do that and even if should does, she doesnt hold the regency anymore. if anything Littlefinger will blackmail the Tyrells into helping his and Sansa's causeThe North, The Reach, The Vale, Possible Dorne vs The Lannisters looks pretty epic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Illidan Stormrage Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Joffery wasnt the Tyrells guest, they were his guests. It makes them hostslayers, nobody hates hostslayers. If your stupid enough to invite them in, you deserve what they will do to you. Aerys/Tywin.Jeor Mormon says something like "There is no greater curse that bringing violence in the home of your host" when the night watch kills Craster - i would say it's just as bad if not worse that killing your guest - the guest right come from anquity where Zeus was the god of guest right - it's purpose was to protect both the host and the guest. I would say the Tyrells are on par with the Freys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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