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Loved it.

"I distrust you because you're not as smart as you think you are"

And loved the last line when Cersei says "perhaps you should try to stop him from doing what he likes".

"I will".

Sounds like there definitely might be some adjustments to the book story after the PW

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Funny how she said Tye-rells and he said Tyh-rells. And her saying CONtribute and him saying conTRIBute. Almost as if he was correcting her.

Loved him turning the 'not as smart as you think you are' back on her too.

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I loved this too because Dan in one interview clearly thought Cersei was much smarter than she was, it was high time for Tywin to put her back in her place. And no this is not misogynistic, Cersei is not a good average for all women, and I do love seeing smart female characters like Daenerys and Margaery make the most of their wits on the show, too.

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Should the "I will" be taken as a hint that Tywin might have been in on his grandson's poisoning?

I doubt it, but I hope that means we'll get the scene where he ushers him off to bed and the line "And any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king at all."

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Should the "I will" be taken as a hint that Tywin might have been in on his grandson's poisoning?

No more than his book line of teaching Joffrey "a sharp lesson", as he once did to Tyrion when he had the audacity to marry a commoner. Whatever Tywin's up to, King Festering Boil is not going to like it.

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Should the "I will" be taken as a hint that Tywin might have been in on his grandson's poisoning?

Not in my opinion.

I take it more in the place of - whether they include it in the show or not - his dismissing the king from the council chambers and having the KG escort him out. Joffrey may be the King, but Tywin is in charge.

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I think its bigger than having the KG escort him out. Tyrion already slapped him.

Im thinking one of three things

1) as mentioned possibly tywin is indicated to have a part in the pw.

2) joff's vrossbow comes back to bite tywin in te bowels for embarrassing joff. (Fired by tyrion though)

3) tywin teaches him a new sharp lesson, not in the books.

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So far we've had a scene with Tywin and each of his children (Jaime s1, Tyrion and now Cersei s3) and he has owned them every time. He rinsed his family in the camp in s1 and sent Reginald Lannister away from Harrenhal in s2.

Need more scenes with Tywin dressing down other Lannisters!

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The Lannisters as a family are the best cast.

Agreed. The Cersei/Tywin relationship is just great. Cersei makes a great case for herself as being marginalized juss because she is a woman, and that otherwise, she's better qualified than any of them. And Lena Headley is great at both convincing the audience and herself that she's right.

But the truth is that she has been a huge fuckup, first by boning her brother, then killing Robert, then her complete inability to control Joffrey, right from letting him kill Ned, to then having the entire capital pissed off at him. If she's going to claim "I've been ruling as Regent", then the Regent should have told the guards to take the little boy away and spare Ned's life, etc.. And Tywin, douche though he is, made that clear with very few words. Can't wait to see Dance's scene(s) with Diana Rigg.

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Charles Dance has me completely loving Tywin and Tywin is anything but lovable.

I am anticipating with much excitement seeing he and Jack Gleason eat up the scenery together in some upcoming episode. Why are they making us wait so long to see those two together?

As a side note: The costumes this season are so incredibly beautiful, including Tywin's black outfit in the last 2 episodes. It makes him all the more imposing. I also had my mouth drop open at Sansa's dress in this episode. It was absolutely stunning, especially with her red hair.

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