The Red Melli Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I often see comments like "Melisandre has burned alot of people" but did she actually burned alot of people and if so was this a matter of justice?I know Edric Storm was about to be sacrificed but he escaped.-Alester Florent attempted to make peace with the Lannisters after the Battle of Blackwater-Guncer Sunglass by orders of Queen Selyse after he no longer supports Stannis-Rattleshirt (Glamour as Mance Rayder)-Hubard Rambton's two sons after they killed 4 Queen's men-3 cannibals So you could say they weren't innocent men and this was a matter of justice.Don't get me wrong though I'm not in favor of burning people alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon of the Dead Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Off the top of my head, Alester Florent, Lord Sunglass and Rattleshirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Bird of Varys Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I think there were five or six. Anyway, it's enough to hate her and her religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrion_skywalker Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Alester Flourent was burned for trying to negotiate with the Lannisters. And there have been others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhymes with Weak Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 6-ish but there is a lot of hinting in the text on how worshipers of the old gods practiced human sacrifice and still do (those dastardly tree people might have turn Jojen into a condiment). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Bird of Varys Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 6-ish but there is a lot of hinting in the text on how worshipers of the old gods practiced human sacrifice and still do (those dastardly tree people might have turn Jojen into a condiment).Being burned alive is something very bad. Asha wants his brother has a severed head instead of being burned.I think it is said that she burned several soldiers after the defeat in Blackwater, perhaps already burned dozens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Melli Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 Being burned alive is something very bad. Asha wants his brother has a severed head instead of being burned.I think it is said that she burned several soldiers after the defeat in Blackwater, perhaps already burned dozens.Link? I only know Selyse has killed Sunglass during the battle of Blackwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Melli Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 6-ish but there is a lot of hinting in the text on how worshipers of the old gods practiced human sacrifice and still do (those dastardly tree people might have turn Jojen into a condiment).Can you post all of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhymes with Weak Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Can you post all of them?Oh my Super-Stannis, I can only think of three. This whole burning thing has been thrown way out of proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Melli Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 Oh my Super-Stannis, I can only think of three. This whole burning thing has been thrown way out of proportion.Too bad, I'm trying to collect all of them. I always read post that she burned alot of people but I can't remember if it's that much Google doesn't help either.Don't get me wrong though I'm not in favor of burning people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Bird of Varys Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Link? I only know Selyse has killed Sunglass during the battle of Blackwater.I was rereading Clash. As I recall it is said in one of the chapters of Davos in Storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flig Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Oh my Super-Stannis, I can only think of three. This whole burning thing has been thrown way out of proportion.Let's be honest here, setting any amount of people on fire is a bad thing. Be it three or thirty-three.But yes, the only three I can think of off the top of my head are Sunglass, Florent, and Rattleshirt. Though I feel we should count Edric since she really wanted him burned. Luckily Stannis's stalling and Davos's daring got in the way of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhymes with Weak Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Let's be honest here, setting any amount of people on fire is a bad thing. Be it three or thirty-three.But yes, the only three I can think of off the top of my head are Sunglass, Florent, and Rattleshirt. Though I feel we should count Edric since she really wanted him burned. Luckily Stannis's stalling and Davos's daring got in the way of that.Most certainly, but then there are threads on this forum which portray Mel as the Westerosi equivalent of Satan, so there seems to be a little flair of the dramatic in her detractors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Worse methods of execution have been used than what Stannis has allowed Mel, nailing people to poles and leaving them to die slowly in the natural elements. Locking people in crow cages to die from the elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhymes with Weak Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Worse methods of execution have been used than what Stannis has allowed Mel, nailing people to poles and leaving them to die slowly in the natural elements. Locking people in crow cages to die from the elements.Or Jaimes whole torture conversation with Edmure in ADWD, some twisted stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowsKnight Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Hubard Rambton's two sons. So I think like 8? In total.Those two, plus Sunglass, Rattleshirt and Alester Florent. Plus the 3 Cannibals.Sunglass is the only one I feel is a less than justified execution. Don't get me wrong burning sucks as a way to die, but the others committed clear crimes. Sunglass on the otherhand could be branded a traitor for not supporting Stannis, but he never lifted a hand against him, he pretty much let himself be arrested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Cannibals were while Stannis was on campaign and Mel at the Wall were they not? Can't really tally that up to Mel.Or Jaimes whole torture conversation with Edmure in ADWD, some twisted stuff. Well I'm not going to equate a threat with an action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Three in ASOIAF. She may have carried out other burnings during her career. Stannis has also burned three people. Dany has burned two, flayed one, and crucified 163. Victarion has burned six female sex slaves, and drowned twenty catamites, with weights attached. Tyrion has carried out four murders. Melisandre's record is pretty average, for the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhymes with Weak Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Cannibals were while Stannis was on campaign and Mel at the Wall were they not? Can't really tally that up to Mel.Well I'm not going to equate a threat with an action.I'm not saying Edmure was actually tortured, i'm just pointing out the fact that far worse stuff goes on in the bowels of Casterly Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 To Melisandre they're not really executions, they're sacrifices Stannis allows her to perform on those he sentences to execution. I'm not entirely positive but I don't think there's an example of her revelling in the prolonging or amplification of the suffering, she seems to feel her method of sacrifice is a good death.As with Victarion.Dany on the other hand chooses her methods of execution with pain and suffering her intent, attempting to match the pain and suffering to the severity of the crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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