wealth westeros vs essos

[65536ob]

how do you think the wealth of westeros compares with that of essos

[KJR the PR of TaFW]

essos kicks butt

[Consigliere]

Essos appears to be wealthier.

[Fat Mac]

Essosi nobles are probably richer as a whole. Especially some of the slave masters in Slaver's bay.

[Lord of Dragonstone]

Essos has more wealth, but the average quaity of life in Westeros seems a lot better.(Although the Free cities might be better than most of what we've seen around Slaver Bay)

[Señor de la Tormenta]

I think westeros is still a medieval society, where the size of your land, and the amount of people they can fead is the messure of ritchness. Essos is all about gold.

[amanofhonor]

It's like comparing medieval Europe to the medieval Middle-East. The east was richer.

[Jrogo]

I think essos is richer. So much trading going on there!

[ladytiger]

Aye, the "cheesemongers" and "cheese lords" of Essos are certainly wealthier than some of the Westerosi lords.

[Tywin Manderly]

Essos is much wealthier. The city of Qarth alone is a couple of times wealthier than all of Westeros.

[TheCasualObserver]

And yet Essos seems to have undeniably poorer armies. Save for the unsullied, all fighting forces we've seen have either been fickle sellsword companies or press ganged slave armies without any real taste for combat. Even the unsullied are acknowledged as lacking the strength and elan of Western Knights.

The disparity isn't true in their historical counterparts - Byzantine, Turkish and Saracen armies often proved to be more than a match for traditional Western armies.

[Jojens Mojjo]

And yet Essos seems to have undeniably poorer armies. Save for the unsullied, all fighting forces we've seen have either been fickle sellsword companies or press ganged slave armies without any real taste for combat. Even the unsullied are acknowledged as lacking the strength and elan of Western Knights.

The disparity isn't true in their historical counterparts - Byzantine, Turkish and Saracen armies often proved to be more than a match for traditional Western armies.

And yet Essos seems to have undeniably poorer armies. Save for the unsullied, all fighting forces we've seen have either been fickle sellsword companies or press ganged slave armies without any real taste for combat. Even the unsullied are acknowledged as lacking the strength and elan of Western Knights.

The disparity isn't true in their historical counterparts - Byzantine, Turkish and Saracen armies often proved to be more than a match for traditional Western armies.

:::Cough::: Dothraki ::::Cough:::: :bang:

[Napyura]

Braavos wins overall.

[Fat Mac]

Qarth wins overall.

Fixed.

[WhiteWalder]

old money vs new money?

[TheCasualObserver]

:::Cough::: Dothraki ::::Cough:::: :bang:

But they're not wealthy or cultured - they are analogous to the mongols and Huns, not Turks or Saracens. My point was that if Quarth and the rest easily outstrip Westeros in terms of wealth, why can't they field armies that are worth a damn?

[Tywin Manderly]

And yet Essos seems to have undeniably poorer armies. Save for the unsullied, all fighting forces we've seen have either been fickle sellsword companies or press ganged slave armies without any real taste for combat. Even the unsullied are acknowledged as lacking the strength and elan of Western Knights.

The disparity isn't true in their historical counterparts - Byzantine, Turkish and Saracen armies often proved to be more than a match for traditional Western armies.

Aside from the knights and men-at-arms belonging to wealthy houses, Westerosi armies mainly consist out of poorly-equipped peasant levies.

[GallowsKnight]

I think it varies among the two. Westeros has some spectacularly wealthy Lords. The Lannisters of Casterly Rock. The Hightowers and the Redwyne. These guys are both rich in liquid assets as wealth as land.

Paxter Redwyne has 1000 mechants ships. Five times the number of Xaro for example.

[Lord of Dragonstone]

I think it varies among the two. Westeros has some spectacularly wealthy Lords. The Lannisters of Casterly Rock. The Hightowers and the Redwyne. These guys are both rich in liquid assets as wealth as land.

Paxter Redwyne has 1000 mechants ships. Five times the number of Xaro for example.

Xaro is just one person. The Thirteen have 1000 ships. The guild of Spicers 1200-1300, and the Tourmaline Brotherhood 800, all of which are a part of Qarth.

[GallowsKnight]

Aside from the knights and men-at-arms belonging to wealthy houses, Westerosi armies mainly consist out of poorly-equipped peasant levies.

Watch out Ero has a half a dozen quotes to counter this.

But the majority of Westerosi armies aren't poorly-equipped peasant levies. They are semi-professional peasant landowners who are expected to supply their own equipment and serve their lord in times of war. And from many of the description the have their own mail armour, as well as helms, pikes etc. Not poorly equipped at all.

Xaro is just one person. The Thirteen have 1000 ships. The guild of Spicers 1200-1300, and the Tourmaline Brotherhood 800, all of which are a part of Qarth.

Just like Paxter Redwyne is one person. One person who has many ships (remember 1000+200warships) as a Government system (the Thirteen) or two trading guilds likely made of many members.

I put forward Paxter Redwyne might be wealthier than any single individual in Qarth. Just collectively they have more wealthier merchants than westeros.