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  1. TheCasualObserver

    Most stupid death (Show only)

    The fact that he got killed didn't surprise me (why should anyone care about him in that room?) but the fact that LF didn't have any real plan or strings to pull or control over anyone made me wonder why he was still in Winterfell at all. I found it a let down, sure, but more for the Stark kids, because it didn't feel like they genuinely outwitted LF, he just stopped effectively plotting and scheming and then died. I thought Roose Bolton's death was pretty dumb. He's spends the entire series as a calculating, careful schemer, then dies when he gives his homicidal son a hug for no reason. Did he just not realise how a trueborn son would threaten Ramsay? Did he think that Ramsay wouldn't murder him when he got the chance? Did he not think about it at all? Lame.
  2. I'm in complete agreement about season 4. I had my doubts about at least some of the choices made in earlier seasons (the sexposition, Talisa, Robb's war ect) but season 4 was where the wheels started coming off. I knew there was something wrong with Jon's trip to crasters keep, Jaime seemed off because Sansa was still in KL, and the watchers on the wall was kind of boring for a massive action scene, but the absence of any mention of Tysha in the season finale was the watershed moment. I disagreed with that "adaptional decision" strongly and thought it weakened the character of Tyrion in a really bad way. And after that came season 5. And that's when the anger set in.
  3. I still don't understand what happened in the Arya/Sansa plotline. Everyone was talking about how the starks and particularly sansa brought down LF, but that's not what the show gives us. Arya and Sansa legitimately looked taken in by LF's idiotic ruse, until bran used his magic knowledge to set them straight. I'm only piecing that together from what the show gave us (which was practically nothing) because Arya and Sansa argue over the bag of faces and that wasn't a trick because LF is nowhere to be seen. Even if he was, I don't understand why Arya would give him the knowledge that she's a magical assassin. How does that help trap him? If anything it would make him more eager to get away from winterfell, which defeats the point.
  4. I do enjoy self-owning quotes like that. They are effectively saying that characters behave in a certain way for a big payoff later, except the actor doesn't know what the payoff will be until it comes, so how can it factor into the performance? Could it be any more clear that characterisation is secondary for these people? I always knew that D&D got into the show to make the red wedding, which was the big shocking moment of the books, but it is painfully clear now that that shock is the primary appeal of the show to the majority of its audience and its writers.
  5. TheCasualObserver

    Do you think....

    I guess it's difficult to detect nihilism if you are a nihilist yourself! But seriously, GOT has been giving the fans what they want quite a lot recently, so I'm guessing a return to form with the unexpected deaths and betrayals could get lots of people upset. Long running tv shows are almost impossible to end well anyway - look at what happened with LOST.
  6. The absence of bran in season 5 makes less and less sense in hindsight. A lot of people have said that him becoming an emotionally dead robot was jarring, especially since he was fine in season 6. If at least some of his season 6 plot was moved to 5 and we see his slide into inhumanity throughout season 6 it really could have helped sell the idea that his powers came at a cost. Then again, Bloodraven never seemed particularly emotionally dead, despite having lots more power and knowledge than Bran, so it may never have made sense.
  7. And we're back! About the above quotes from the scripts - when the writers are directly referring to their costume designers and choreographers by name in the script it makes for the clearest indication I've seen that they are genuinely phoning it in. Also, I have question for all of you - was anyone less annoyed by season 7 than by 5 and 6? I don't mean season 7 is any good, because it's really, really not, but did anyone else think it somehow mattered less? Some parts were so goofy I was laughing.
  8. TheCasualObserver

    [SPOILERS thru S7] Where did the show go wrong?

    The answer to this question is difficult, because throughout season 4 there were little mistakes, and cutting the tysha reveal at the end was the biggest one. But my answer will always be sansa marrying ramsay in season 5. It makes, Roose, Ramsay, Sansa and LF all look idiotic and effectively ruined the northern plot from then on. How could they screw up so badly that the north didn't remember anything at all? I refuse to believe that a season of Sansa creeping around the north trying to get northern houses to rise up would have been less interesting than her being raped and abused for a whole season.
  9. TheCasualObserver

    Best Season Ending

    I had some issues with season 4, but i think it had the best ending. Varys walking away from kl with the lannister music slowly replaced by the title theme is one of my favourite musical motifs and Arya sailing away felt like a the beginning of something new, into unknown territory. Very effective.
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    Bran could have been used a better way.

    That was used to show that Bran is now emotionally dead, in the clumsiest way possible. It doesn't even make sense to me - the three eyed raven was emoting all the way through season 6 and he supposedly had the same powers as Bran. The whole winterfell plotline in season 7 was extremely weak, and had surprisingly low stakes.
  11. TheCasualObserver

    Season 5 vs Books 4 and 5

    Season 5 is still the absolute worst for me. Sansa, Dorne and Jon's murder were all handled so poorly it's unbelievable, plus the absolute dumbest moment in the entire show when Daario finds that guy hiding in the walls for no reason. Just awful. When compared to the books it's even worse. I know people have issues with the length and pacing of Feast and Dance, and I think you can make some decent criticisms about them for that, but the show barely attempted to adapt even the good bits. No murder mystery or "the north remembers" at Winterfell, no heroic Brienne at the inn, no introspective journey for a changed Jaime, no descent into madness for Cersei and even the Sparrows plotline was botched and nonsensical. I liked Hardhome, but that was where the budget went - it felt like they put that in to try and distract people from how terrible everything around it was. I think D and D were lucky Dorne was disliked so much because it drew a lot of hate away from all the other mistakes made.
  12. TheCasualObserver

    [SPOILERS thru S7] Where did the show go wrong?

    Season 5 is certainly where I lost faith with the show, even if I had several big quibbles with seaosn 4, and it's Sansa's plotline in winterfell that did it. Not the infamous scene in ep 6, but the episode when LF outlines his plan for Sansa when they reach Moat Cailen. It made no sense to me then or now and pulled me completely out of the world - I've never quite been able to watch the show and invest myself in its fiction ever since. It's a failure in plotting and characterization where no party seems to be acting in their own interest. The Boltons come across as incredibly gullible, LF's plan is nonsensical and Sansa seems to have suffered brain damage. And of course the whole thing has a surprising lack of consequences; it's a two season cul-de-sac really. But the "side mission" elements, the questionable dialogue choices and the favoring of the action sequence over the characters were issues present in most of the previous seasons. D&D are highly competent screen writers and know their way around an action scene, but they are effectively "hollywood hacks" and that shone through most clearly when the book material ran out, or rather just before.
  13. TheCasualObserver

    Rant and Rave without Repercussions [S7 Leaks Edition]

    It really, really, really should have been Sansa who uncovers him in the end. The student becomes the teacher, outwits her mentor and defeats him - it's a classic story. Instead, Sansa more or less just starts ignoring LF, and later has her sister kill him when her omniscient brother tells him what a stinker he is. And to make matters worse, the trial scene just emphasized how friendless LF was in that room. Everyone was prepared to believe hearsay and rumour to condemn LF to death, but that just means that they were already on the Stark side (entirely reasonable) so Sansa didn't need to be clever or outwit LF at all. She could have just had his head chopped off on a whim and no one would give a shit. So why was LF even there? He was doing nothing in Winterfell, with no one on his side, no cards to play and no plan to enact. This was satisfying?
  14. TheCasualObserver

    Rant and Rave without Repercussions [S7 Leaks Edition]

    It amuses me how they pinned everything on LF in season 6 after the backlash over the rape, even though they wrote season 5 as if Sansa was doing all this tactically. Brian Cogman even called Sansa "a hardened woman making a choice", even though she never had a plan and did jack shit all season long. Placing Sansa in winterfell really ruined a huge chunk of the show.
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    Rant and Rave without Repercussions [S7 Leaks Edition]

    http://www.vulture.com/2017/08/rick-and-morty-game-of-thrones-post-credits-scene.html Comments like this just vindicate the writing in season 5 and 6. To be honest season 7 didn't leave much of an impression on me because everything was downright... silly. I wouldn't say that about 5 and 6, which both really pissed me off.