The First Law by Joe Abercrombie Vx (spoilers through LAOK for now)

[Circle_breaker]

The Heroes was my favorite, but i understand why some people wouldn't like it.

[Nicomo Cosca]

Ferro is boring however. She just hates everything.

I DID liked Ferro, although she isn't one of my favorites I still enjoyed her character in general. I remember liking the fact that at the start she is in a totally different enviroment than all the other ones, and that made me interested on her backstory and storyline in general.

The Heroes had by far the best POV's, in my opinion. Loved everyone of them

I won't deny the fact that The Heroes has one of the best PoVs in the series.

Couldn't make the spoiler code work, so I'll just say the only PoV I wasn't that fond of was the one that starts with G.

[Nicomo Cosca]

It seems like The Heroes is quite a masterpiece from what I hear. Looking forward to getting to this point.

Best Served Cold and The Heroes were the best ones IMO. I just can't decide wich one I like best, both are awesome!

[The Reckoner]

I enjoyed Talins and the gallows humor in Best Served Cold, so I would give it the nod over The Heroes.

[Darth Richard II]

Don't be silly people, thanks to modern technolfy, Patrick Stewart can play EVERY role.

[hadaad]

I've always pictured Chow Yun Fat as Bayaz.

[Pilusmagnus]

I pictured Pai Mei as Yulwei until I learnt that he was actually black.

Also, since the thread is now 3 pages long and since I have a question, let's try :

In the name of Bel, and his toad-lord Callych; in the name of Succellos, and his worm-master Horfael, I summon thee, Lord Grimdark, to this forum.

This is my question : Dear Lord Grimdark, do you consider yourself a gardener or an architect?

If you don't understand what I mean : http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/749309-i-think-there-are-two-types-of-writers-the-architects

[SeanF]

I pictured Pai Mei as Yulwei until I learnt that he was actually black.

Also, since the thread is now 3 pages long and since I have a question, let's try :

In the name of Bel, and his toad-lord Callych; in the name of Succellos, and his worm-master Horfael, I summon thee, Lord Grimdark, to this forum.

This is my question : Dear Lord Grimdark, do you consider yourself a gardener or an architect?

Did you remember to cut a hamster's throat, and drink its blood?

How about Iwan Rheon to play Glokta?

[Pilusmagnus]

Did you remember to cut a hamster's throat, and drink its blood?

Does it work with a cuddly one?

Iwan Rheon is too young IMO

[SeanF]

Does it work with a cuddly one?

Iwan Rheon is too young IMO

The cuddlier the better.

Iwan Rheon is only five years younger than Glokta. I can picture him explaining "I however, am a dentist of a different sort."

[Pilusmagnus]

There you are : http://www.zupimages.net/up/14/37/qgoi.png

[red snow]

I pictured Pai Mei as Yulwei until I learnt that he was actually black.

Also, since the thread is now 3 pages long and since I have a question, let's try :

In the name of Bel, and his toad-lord Callych; in the name of Succellos, and his worm-master Horfael, I summon thee, Lord Grimdark, to this forum.

This is my question : Dear Lord Grimdark, do you consider yourself a gardener or an architect?

If you don't understand what I mean : http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/749309-i-think-there-are-two-types-of-writers-the-architects

You could always try his blog. He had a post on that very subject once and even mentions it in his most recent "writing update". To sum it up he was an architect who is gradually turning into a gardener. You shouldn't invoke authors for paltry matters for fear of their wrath.

[Pilusmagnus]

I would have said the contrary. I could have sworn The Blade Itself was written in a full gardening manner.

[Night's_King]

I would have said the contrary. I could have sworn The Blade Itself was written in a full gardening manner.

How do you notice if someone is a gardener or an architect, while reading?

[Pilusmagnus]

Just a feeling that some chapters were just here because the author found they were fun and did not know what to do later with them. That's how I write and I felt Joe was taking the same kind of pleasure. (You mind if I call him Joe?)

[Bjornbert]

Just a feeling that some chapters were just here because the author found they were fun and did not know what to do later with them. That's how I write and I felt Joe was taking the same kind of pleasure. (You mind if I call him Joe?)

You should probably stop making wrong assumptions and read the next books. No chapter is useless in the books.

[Pilusmagnus]

Did I say useless? You should probably stop making wrong assumptions and read what I actually say.

[Night's_King]

Just a feeling that some chapters were just here because the author found they were fun and did not know what to do later with them. That's how I write and I felt Joe was taking the same kind of pleasure. (You mind if I call him Joe?)

And you don't think he did that on purpose? Architects don't plan every chapter and every detail beforehand.

[Pilusmagnus]

From what I understand, if GRRM considers himself a gardener even if he has the ending in mind since the beginning, that means you can't consider an author who simply knows what happens next as an architect. An architect has his entire story planned before he writes. He doesn't add chapters because he finds it fun, which is what I felt Joe was doing. (But I can be totally wrong.)

[Night's_King]

From what I understand, if GRRM considers himself a gardener even if he has the ending in mind since the beginning, that means you can't consider an author who simply knows what happens next as an architect. An architect has his entire story planned before he writes. He doesn't add chapters because he finds it fun, which is what I felt Joe was doing. (But I can be totally wrong.)

Didn't GRRM invent this whole "gardener-architect"-thing? And even if what you say is true, I don't know even one author who fits in that "architect"-category. Do you? I think everyone is a little of both.

Gardeners should know some keyscenes of their story and even architects should be spontaneous.