chrisdaw Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 May we know how responsible GRRM is for particular parts of the book? I ask purely for theorising purposes. I'd like to know if he wrote the Doom of Valyria pages, specifically the description of the destruction and particularly if he was responsible for the following language. mountains burst red clouds rained down dragonglass and the black blood of demons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Actually these are almost the same phrases used in ADwD IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 So it is, exactly, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I do wonder, was more of the book written by George, or by Elio and Linda?I know Georges notes were used, but used exactly, or were things made up as they went along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Aegon's Conquest is 100% George. A large portion of Ten Thousand Ships is also 100% GRRM. Other sections -- particularly the ancient stuff (including the Doom), some of the regions, and many of the Targaryen kings -- are much more Linda and I based on George's notes and the unpublished texts he wrote, but as you see we would, when we could, make use of some of George's fine imagery from the novels, and when we could we'd leave some interesting snippets from Gyldayn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Ahh ok thank you very much. Good stuff to know.So you didn't really make much of it up? Its all based on notes?Ahh Gyldayn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Not all. We discuss this a bit in our AMA (see #3) and give an example of the kinds of places where we speculated out solutions to questions we had about historical events, noted them as speculations to George, and then when he went over the draft he kept, tweaked, or dropped them as he thought best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yeah thanks. It was all cycled through GRRM, reassuring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug the Golden Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 @Ran Are the parts about Maelor's "death" and the end of Aegon II/Larys Strong direct from GRRM/Gyldayn? EditThanks for the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 George wrote 80,000 words or so on the Dance, but we had to do a very tight synopsis of it. So it's our words, but all based on his text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 What seems to be also 100% George are all the sidebars credited 'from the history of Archmaester Gyldayn'. As I've said earlier, the unabridged account on the birth of Rhaenyra's daughter with Visenya is very powerful prose. Thanks for that one. And it really gives a taste how the unabridged account on the Dance really looks like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonDreamer Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Was the bit about the Pack of Ice and Fire at Winterfell part of the original DoD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yes. We did not speculate on anything regarding the Dance, as George was going to write that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 So do you know if the full Dance will be released in Fire and Blood or seperetaly, ala The Princess and the Queen?Fire and Blood right?I love the Dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 That's the present intention, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 So basically GRRM is writing another giant book on the world of ice and fire. Good good. Now I wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Ran, do you know what are still unwritten in Fire & Blood (or if you do, can you share with us :))? It looks like the Dance is almost ready but Fire & Blood will cover everything about the Targaryens right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 He hopes to write it, anyways. Perhaps when he's done with ASoIaF some other projects might appeal more. :) What's left to be written? Finishing Gyldayn's history of Aegon III's reign and the reigns after his through to Aegon V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yap. You can guess that if you check the sidebars. Gyldayn's history is not cited directly from the end of the Regency on events occurring in those reigns. By any chance: Is the section you quote from Munkun of the the speech from Aegon III at end of the Regency by any chance the last finished sentence from Gyldayn's history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 This is not directly on topic, but it was interesting to learn that Gyldayn was the maester at Summerhall of all places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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