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  1. Lautrec

    Do you think the show is better or worse for not including Young Griff?

    I really don't see that big of a difference between appearing for the first time in the fifth or sixth of seven novels. In any case it's too late. At that time we are well past the point of introducing new and big characters into the story. Aegon appears 1.3 million words into the story, which is, for perspective's sake, 3 times the length of the entirety of LOTR. If he appeared first in ASoS, then that would be maybe okay. Clash would be best. It wouldn't take much, just a few chapters. Or even having the ASoS prologue be about him, even that would be enough. Just something to not make it seem like he comes out of nowhere. That is basically my main point. Even though it is too late, it could have worked, if there was proper set-up, but there isn't. I also wouldn't really say he is an interesting character. He is a bad plot-device seen through the perspective of an interesting character. Two interesting characters, actually. His entire purpose in the plot will be to make Dany's conquest harder. Which is fine, but could have been done much better. Not that what the show is doing is good, it's bad, but at least it's using a character, Cersei, that has been with us since the first episode and is someone whose plot we are engaged with. As for the Targaryen reveals, yes, that would be ridiculous, which is why I am glad they cut him. Nor will Tyrion be revealed as a Targaryen. Not to digress, but 99% of theories are nonsense, especially concerning secret Targs and who will be dragonriders. I have no clue why people even think anyone has to ride Viserion or Rhaegal, especially on the show.
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    Do you think the show is better or worse for not including Young Griff?

    Sure, but all further info given still doesn't change anything about his entry into the story. Imagine if in Winds we find out that Rhaenys is alive too, and she was in Sothoryos this whole time, gathering up an army to take back the throne, and then we spend chapter after chapter on her. That's what Aegon was in Dance.
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    Do you think the show is better or worse for not including Young Griff?

    As it stands, better, but not by much because there was no worthwhile replacement. Aegon in the books might be my least favourite part of the whole series, because it is such a late-game asspull and the moment I realised these books will never be finished because apparently major players and plotlines can enter the story at any moment put of nowhere. If the show were to include him, they should have been doing setup from S1, but they didn't, so it was best to cut him completely.
  4. There will be LSH speculation until the show is over, but seriously, she is obviously not appearing.
  5. Fair enough, though I'd still say she is trivial in the books because of the poor execution, but whatever.
  6. Themes are nice, but all stories have themes inherently, and they are not in any way an excuse for poor storytelling. Catelyn suddenly coming back to life 30 episodes (and 3 years in real-time) after her death would be a borderline jumpi-the-shark moment. Imagine if Ned suddenly came back to life in the S4 finale, completely out of the blue. We can all discuss the hints, and never mind the qualities of LSH as a character, but there is no real, in-universe set-up and foreshadowing for her at this point, short of an occasional name-drop for Catelyn and a re-introduction to the BBW, the former being completely insubstantial in terms of foreshadowing and the later being easily explained as just being what it is and what we'll get but without LSH.
  7. True enough, there are hints, and D&D do have a tendency to name-drop long lost characters a few episodes before they are to appear, but I think all of these hints could be rather taken as evidence that the BWB would appear, and them being coy about LSH is just not wishing to spoil (though Martin has confirmed she is cut). I agree, if they are ever going to introduce her, the time is now, and if she doesn't appear by the end of the season then it's pretty much confirmed she is cut (though we've all been saying this every season since the S3 finale). But admittedly the argument against her inclusion at this point is that it's been so long since the RW that her appearing would seem like a pointless shock.
  8. I think it's more that you all want LSH to appear so you are seeing hints and clues where there are none.
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    Guy Gavriel Kay

    You must read really depressing fantasy then
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    Guy Gavriel Kay

    Does it really?
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    Guy Gavriel Kay

    So, anyone else finished with Children of Earth and Sky? What did you think about it? I loved it, as I expected to. His books have yet to disappoint me. Still not sure where I'd put it in regards to his other novels, because it's still so fresh, but I'm thinking somewhere among the better works like Lions and Sarantine. Spoilers for Children below.
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    Guy Gavriel Kay

    I believe that maybe Kay once said that Tigana and A Song for Arbonne do take place on the same planet, but Tigana is in the southern hemisphere, as evident by the fact that north of the Palm is a desert-like environment and to the south is a colder one. But for narrative purposes these two novels have nothing to do with each other. The mention of the one moon in Under Heaven I took as a direct sign that it's not the same planet as the other novels, and it's referenced again in River of Stars that there's one moon. I also don't remember there being references to Kitai in the other novels, or references to stuff like Karch or Esperana or Sarantium in the Kitai novels. One anomaly I do remember is that in Lord of Emperors there is a mention of "arimondan leather", but Arimonda is the spain-like country from A Song for Arbonne, so I assume that was just a mistake on Kay's part. Really? What didn't you like about it? I thought the ending wasn't really as strong as his tend to be, but the overall writing was among his best and the characters are quite great too.
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    Guy Gavriel Kay

    Just a reminder that Children of Earth and Sky is out. I'm almost halfway through am really enjoying it.
  14. Its amazing the insanity we have to deal with in this place! :)

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      Lautrec

      It has its fun moments :P 

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