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  1. Cron

    sansa, arya, and dany

    Very interesting stuff, I enjoyed reading it all. Yeah, it's possible that the prophecy already has come true, in a sense. Could be. It just depends on how abstractly we want to think about it (or, maybe, how abstractly GRRM wants to think about it) But yeah, that's all possible.
  2. Cron

    sansa, arya, and dany

    Maybe. But I don't think Mirri Maz Duur WAS just a crazy old woman. She clearly had power (magic). She knew what she was doing, and I think she knew what she was saying, and I think it WILL come true...in a twisted, unexpected sense. GRRM has VERY carefully constructed this story. Very little is meaningless or just crazy ramblings. (Indeed, some threads on this site have made very surprising connections and insights into stuff I never thought much about at all when I first read the books) No, I think it was prophecy, I think GRRM knew how he would make it come "true" when he wrote it, and when it is all said and done and Dany is pregnant, we will all look back on Mirri's words and praise GRRM for how clever he is (which he IS). Again, this is VERY common in fantasy fiction. Prophecies that seem bizarre and can't possibly true, or SEEM to mean something different from what they actually mean and are misinterpreted for hundreds (sometimes thousands) of pages, and then the reader finds out the REAL meaning and goes "Ohhhhh, so THAT'S what that meant!" Common as dirt in fantasy fiction (but still lots of fun)
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    sansa, arya, and dany

    I could be wrong, but I don't think Dany is pregnant yet. I think there will have to be some bizarre circumstances so that it can be said that Mirri Maz Duur's prophecy "came true." She DID NOT simply tell Dany "You will never be pregnant again." Oh no. She said some really bizarre things, and I predict that when it's all said and done, we will look back on her words and go "Ohhhh, so THAT'S what that meant," and it will all make sense, and her words will have come true, in a sense. (Since this is how prophecy often works in fiction. It almost NEVER means what it seems to mean on its face, but when you look back later, you go "Ohhhhh...")
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    sansa, arya, and dany

    Ever since I first read A Dance with Dragons (about 6 years ago) I've been convinced the story will end with a tri-archy in power. Why ELSE would GRRM spend time talking about that form of gov't?? The only question in my mind is "Who will the three tri-archs BE?" I've thought Dany and Tyrion will be two of them for a long time and now it looks pretty clear to me that Jon will be the third.
  5. Cron

    sansa, arya, and dany

    Yeah, I've heard that basic theory, that a direct sequel is not being done cuz GRRM wants that territory reserved for himself. Personally, though, I'll be surprised if he ever finishes A Dream of Spring (at least without a co-author), so as the years go by I think he'll yield and we will get a direct sequel. Like I said, too much money to be made for it to not happen. GRRM doesn't even have to do any work, HBO can just write him a check and that will be that, I think.
  6. Cron

    sansa, arya, and dany

    Yeah, interesting stuff in your hidden comment. Someone else here basically mentioned some of that too, I think. Who knows, maybe it is all more uncertain than I thought, but my humble opinion is that Jon, Dany, Arya and Tyrion WILL all live, and Bran is becoming something of a question mark in my mind. (In fact, I believe Jon, Dany and Tyrion will be the "3 heads of the dragon" tri-archy in the end). Plus, of course, Arya is very popular, and I think an eventual sequel will feature her (and some other characters) pretty prominently. (To anyone reading this, yes, I know we've been told the first spin-off will not be a direct sequel, but I DO believe a direct sequel will be made eventually. It might be 5 or 10 years from now, but there's too much money to be made for it to never happen.)
  7. And, ironically enough, this is the exact opposite of part of what made GRRM's books so great in the first place: The main characters DIDN'T have plot armor. They COULD die, and they DID (most notably Ned, Cat and Robb), and that's a huge part of what made the story so realistic. I read the books years before Season One aired, and I was QUITE surprised when Ned died, and stunned when I read the Red Wedding. (In fact, I was so shocked by the Red Wedding I went back and read it twice more just to make sure I had not misunderstood what happened)B But those days are gone. Now the main characters have plot armor as thick as the A-Team's (Ever seen that old t.v. show? Holy cow. It was very popular, and it had entertaining moments, but WOW did those characters have plot armor!)
  8. Cron

    sansa, arya, and dany

    Well, I suppose you could be right. Have you read about the theory that Bran is the Night King, and Jon will put a final ending to it by killing Bran? (By the way, this is not spoiler, of course, it is just theory, but it's a theory that seems to be gaining a lot of steam.)
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    sansa, arya, and dany

    Wow, that's really interesting! That's not how I heard it, but I'm not saying you're wrong. Maybe it's like the "telephone game," where things get repeated and the story accidentally gets changed as more and more people get confused. Could be. I'm confident that what I wrote is what i heard, but hey, maybe I heard wrong. I certainly do not claim to have heard it from GRRM himself. In any event, even based on what you wrote, my personal opinion remains that the characters I mentioned WILL all still be alive at the final ending (because I choose to believe that, whatever else may have changed, the core remains, and subsequent information on this issue MIGHT have been misdirection), certain others will NOT be alive, and some others are big question marks.
  10. Cron

    sansa, arya, and dany

    Here's my understanding of it:
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    sansa, arya, and dany

    I would argue that Jon cannot have surrendered his claim, cuz he didn't even KNOW he had it. I cannot imagine any rules of succession that would say a person has forfeited a right they didn't even know they had. Perhaps "Jon Snow, the King in the North" has yielded to Dany, but "Aegon Targaryen" HAS NOT. In my mind, it is indisputable that Jon has the better claim, and frankly I'd say the number of GoT followers/fans who deny it or are arguing otherwise is very, very small. In fact, i highly doubt there is any precedent in the history of Westeros for what you are saying (cuz the current circumstances between Jon and Dany are so bizarre), so I'm guessing that, at most your theory is just speculation. Now, for the rest of what you said, I'll make it a hidden comment to save anyone who doesn't want to be spoiled:
  12. Oh, definitely! Which is why, in that post above, for No. 1, I mentioned the entire thing, from the start of Gendry's run all the way until Jon arrived at Eastwatch on the horse. My goodness, he somehow survived the freezing water (after being under for so long that all his companions were gone when he surfaced) escaped the area (even though it was crawling with undead), then rode about 350 to 400 miles soaking wet with freezing cold water in sub-zero temperatures, and somehow survived. Now that's some REAL high quality plot armor.
  13. Could be. Personally, I loved 704, and gave it a "10" the same night it aired. I think a lot of it was cuz of the built up anticipation of waiting so many years for so many things that were in that episode (4 reunions, plus finally seeing Dany and a dragon in battle in Westeros and, as expected, she crushed her enemies)
  14. interesting. There is a great thread here called, I believe, "Ranking the Episode Ratings," which consists of a ranking of the top episode ratings (based on polls done in each episode's "Rate the Episode" threads; in other words, how Westeros users ranked each episode via a poll), and as I recall Episode 704 came in 10th best (I'm pretty sure the thread took into account all episodes except 707, which wasn't out yet) I think it's a great thread (pretty sure the author listed all 10 of the top 10), and I'm hoping that the author will SOON list all 67 episodes, in order, based on rating rankings.
  15. Yes, those are great nominees. Tremendous nominees, in fast. I guess, at the moment, my rankings would be: 1. Dany's rescue of the Wight Hunters (starting from Gendry's run, and ending with Jon's arrival at Eastwatch on the horse). I honestly believe this ranks Number One, for reasons discussed at great length in this thread. 2. Jon's survival at the Battle of the Bastards. 3. Bronn and Jaime escaping at Field of Fire 2. 4. Arya's final battle with the Waif (This one, in fact, while superficially absurd, actually DOES have a potential explanation, if that bottle Lady Crane had contained some kind of magical healing potion. It would be nice if that was revealed at some point.)
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