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Plus Oldtown in Obara's case. As for Oberyn losing the trial, Martin wanted to subvert Inigo Montoya.

Well, like how you suggested, Sansa does wind up being all alone in the show which is what I was getting at.

Like how she ended in the show?

Well, I wouldn't put it past Jaime to choose not to know; he'd already lived through the Sack of King's Landing where the kids he was supposed to protect were killed on Tywin's orders and their mother raped. There's no way he couldn't know unless he blinded himself to it. When it comes to Tyrion's bastards I'd say that most wouldn't want to keep his. There's always that outside chance of their child inheriting Tyrion's dwarfism and given how Tyrion is marginalized even at the upper echelons of society, they'd at least think twice. As for getting someone else to care for the kid or funds from the father? Forget about it for Tywin will make a Mountain of trouble for you.

I always wondered why Jaime decided to go along with Tywin on that...

That's the other thing; did they even need the Jon Arryn/Lysa match if Catelyn was already going to be bound to the Rebellion via marriage to Ned?

Something during Catelyn's first chapter in ASOS says that Hoster wasn't the type to sire illegitimate kids, so I would imagine that Hoster would disapprove of Walder's open acknowledgement of them. As far as selling both daughters, he chose to follow through Catelyn's betrothal with Brandon by swapping Ned in, but with Lysa, he could have chosen to marry her away from the land of the schmuck who sired a bastard on her, who Hoster knew was a bad influence.

Always wondered how disguising Jeyne as "Arya" would be pulled off and allowed. Technically Ramsay would be bedding an 11-year-old.

Do you think it's possible that Catelyn dislikes Jon because Ned looked out for him like Walder and Hoster made his dislike of Walder's practices plain? Hoster wasn't just a jerk but also an idiot.

So... Creatively it'll make sense because he wants it to happen?

Given Martin's emphasis on realism in the books, it's surprising he'd be so lax with logistics. Something else the show copied over.

Not to mention Sandor since Clegane Sr. covered the burning up.

As far as the muppet Tullys are concerned, Martin wasted an opportunity to throw in an Eddard, Gordyn, and Henryk.

You forgot Sansa the Traitorous.

Well who'd have thought this happened in the show.

And some kids suffer less and become killers. Look at Joffrey or Aerys the Mad.

Two. There was a Vale tribesman whose throat she slit in AGOT.

That tends to happen as a zombie, not to mention GRRM's dislike of resurrections where the person who comes back is mostly normal.

Another one to throw in: Randyll and Sam. Not even Tywin directly threatens to murder his son unless he goes to a monastic order (and for some reason Tywin never considers sending Tyrion to the citadel and enables his whoring by giving him money despite his public disapproval).

Unfortunately we don't see much of Ned as a ruler in the North so however good a job he did seems on the surface to be informed ability.

Well, GRRM emphasizes realism in his work so when it doesn't match it sticks out like a sore thumb (like Anguy's steel liver and sex drive which is nearly equivalent to a one-month rental for a pirate fleet).

That's if they don't get whittled down by the Sons of the Harpy.

She will jump out of a tree and kill the Great Other.

I remember there was a tangent on a thread of mine about why Aegon a) didn't have more kids and b) waited so long to have kids. We the readers don't even hear of miscarriages and stillbirths as were wont to happen (especially with the Targaryens).

She's not going to be found. Didn't GRRM say that in another interview?