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  1. By "stuck to your guns," are you referring to anything prior to Season 8? Because I don't recall Sansa ever mentioning "Northern independence" until the point the writers could use it as a wedge issue between the Starks and Daenerys. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
  2. Well now wait, maybe you can make a case for Dany lacking introspection in the show, but don't throw Martin's name into that idea. Book Daenerys is the most introspective character in the whole story: she is constantly examining her own actions and herself. My favorite thing about her, but I concede it is all but completely lost in the show where she is always decisive and self-confident.
  3. "Let it be fear" is just the absurdly tiny fig leaf they threw up to cover the pasty, shriveled genitalia of what was left of the plot. It wasn't just a "horrible decision," it was completely senseless. "Fear" is laughable as a so-called motivation for what she did. Just spare 5 seconds to think this thing through. It is so, so easy to instill fear with dragons, and there are so many ways you can influence them to get people to do things you want to do. Why use them to inflict massive destruction and suffering of a sort that doesn't take a single step toward your supposed goal? Especially when you are in fact operating counter to your supposed motivation when you show people that what you plan to do with your dragons is destroy cities that surrender? No other city will ever surrender after such a colossal blunder. I assume you aren't positing that imposing fear had suddenly become a goal in itself, unrelated to its efficiency in achieving control of the realm. Such a thing would obviously be a complete 180 for her character.
  4. Certainly we the viewers no very little about Bran and his abilities, and virtually nothing about his thought processes.
  5. Really horrible, like the whole season. Daenerys is the worst part. YES OF COURSE she has a sharp temper and had a mad father, but she had NEVER hurt people for no reason. Then in the last 2 episodes she suddenly goes Full Hitler. Not only killing hundreds of thousands, but giving no poops about it and pretty much promising to do it again. Even worse than Hitler, really. As another poster points out, the black dress with Drogon's wings unfurling behind was very much Satanic. And meanwhile, in the background, the horrific shrieks of the Dothraki making the aural composition of the scene very suggestive of Dante's Inferno. She's such a great character in the books and is fully defecated on in the show. For sure, she COULD have been taken from where she was at the end of the books to a similar spot, but it would've been an epic journey. Instead, she just 180s at the very end from benevolent liberator to Death The Destroyer. Bran? Really? I think I'd want somebody a little bit more in touch with reality as king. Somebody who is fully human. Somebody who doesn't just stare off into space most of the time. And I'd think the election of a king of Westeros would be a little more involved than a bunch of folks sitting around, somebody asks who will lead, ONE NAME gets suggested, and even though the name doesn't really make sense everybody just goes "Sure, whatever, jolly good, mate." This would take months, there would be heavy politics involved, and you can bet your butt there is going to be more than one candidate. I hear a lot of people comparing Sansa at the end to Littlefinger, but hey, come on, Littlefinger is at least charming and polite. Sansa, who I used to like, has turned into a raging beeyatch since she made it back to Winterfell. By the way, she never gave one hot little [email protected]*! about northern independence until it was convenient to the plot. And by the way, why did she appear to be, or at least act like, she was in charge at that last (nonsensical) meeting? Where did all these folks come from? How long did it take them to get here? Who organized this? Why has Tyrion been in jail awaiting trial right up until this meeting happens and then suddenly he's the guy who gets to be Hand and all but appointed the King? This Lannister who was the hand of the mad tyrant they just deposed? And speaking of independence for the North? WHAT? Even though the other 6 kingdoms are going to be ruled by a Stark? And NOBODY has a problem with this? ????? And Arya? In command of a naval expedition, which fully requires numerous skills she simply does not have even an inkling of? Give. Me. A. Break. The plot armor is heavy with this one. And Bronn on the council? Why the heck not just put a known criminal in charge of the realm's money? But then again, we do get to pretty much end the whole story with more brothel jokes. <sheesh> And finally, the tiny island of Naath is going to be SO SO happy when thousands of eunuchs with no skills whatsoever other than war descend upon their shore. . . .
  6. Personally, I'd go for somebody a little less detached. Maybe somebody who doesn't just stare off into space 24/7. But that's just me.
  7. They had ONE GUY get suggested--by a Lannister who was hand to the deposed tyrant, brought to the meeting as a prisoner--and everybody just says "oh yeah, cool, whatever, no need to talk about it or think about it, just do it." In reality, it would take months to elect a king because there has to be time for some heavy politics. I guess doing it so quickly is the only way to slip in the nonsense about the independent north but everybody else getting behind a stark for king. <rollseyes>
  8. People don't have to be able to deliver brilliant plot designs to be able to tell when they see one that's fucked up.
  9. Can you give me another realistic beginning to the enterprise? Sure - OF COURSE it would be better to give everybody due process, use soft powers like persuasion, perhaps provide job training to the masters as they were replaced. . . . But let's get real. That was a one-time shot at slaughtering the masters and freeing the slaves. Either you put the Unsullied and dragons to work on the spot while the masters are vulnerable or you don't. There is no "checking" to see who is involved like they're all gonna just queue up to be "checked." If you pass you lose Drogon and the slaves stay slaves. But if you act and win you have all your dragons, you have an army, the slaves are freed, and the millenia old circle of slavery in Slaver's Bay has a fighting chance to be erased.
  10. Say whatever you like, you still haven't provided a single example of her killing or even hurting people for no reason, despite all your repeated claims that her actions were "foreshadowed."
  11. I'm talking about logical reasons, not personal anger. She has shown anger, but her actions as queen have always been logical and era-appropriate. It's horseshit for her to suddenly go so far off the rails at the very end of the story. That's not foreshadowed at all.
  12. Please notice you've given me zero instances of foreshadowing that she would kill people for no reason. Much less hundreds of thousands of them. This is bad story-telling. VERY bad, amateurish.
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