Minsc Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Would he? Jon argued for Mance's life because his knowledge made him useful to the Night's Watches true purpose. Is it conceivable that Gared's -unique as far as Ned knew- first hand knowledge of the Others would accord him the same protection? Mance was actually highly knowledgeable and thus had a wealth of information that he could give the NW and realm, while Gared was a rambling nobody who all he knew was that he saw some Others. Simply, Gared hardly had all that much useful information needed to spare his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Brandon Ice Eyes Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I love Arya but the "I hope your princess die" line makes me laugh so hard at her and Elmar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Raven Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 What crime? Ned didn't commit treason. Technically he did. He went into the throne room, told the king that he didn't deserve to sit on the throne and threatened to have him and his mother, the queen regent, arrested. That's treason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ravenstark Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Please, don't kill me but: Jon first appareance: watching a desertor of Night's Watch being executed. Last appareance: executed, desertor of Night's Watch. Jaime losing the hand he used to cripple Bran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skagosi High Chef Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Jon not being allowed to fight Joffrey because "bastards can't hit a prince" :lol: :box: bastard bashing at its most ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmd Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Have we damn agreed that Ned chopping off the guy's head was ironic or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skagosi High Chef Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Have we damn agreed that Ned chopping off the guy's head was ironic or not? I agree. It was Ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Howland Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Lysa Tully sending a warning to Cat in the hopes that it would keep Ned in the North, but it actually is what tips the scales and makes him decide to come south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usrnmhsnomning Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Gared and Ned's deaths aren't ironic. Ironic would be if it turned out Gared and Janos were related, and Gareds death being the reason Janos betrays Ned (and thus beheaded). Ned executing the guy with Ice, and then getting executed with Ice, isn't ironic. It's a coincidence that there just so happened to be a man who needed execution at the start of the story. Realistically, there's about 3 posts so far which actually have ironic events. The rest are just "huh, slight connection, I'll call it ironic!". Those 3 being:Arya and the dead princessJaime preferring death to being crippled (losing the hand that pushed Bran isn't ironic, and this is a very loose ironic instance anyway)Jon not being allowed to fight Joffrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a Harpy Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Jorah the slave works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skagosi High Chef Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Gared and Ned's deaths aren't ironic. Ironic would be if it turned out Gared and Janos were related, and Gareds death being the reason Janos betrays Ned (and thus beheaded). Ned executing the guy with Ice, and then getting executed with Ice, isn't ironic. It's a coincidence that there just so happened to be a man who needed execution at the start of the story. Realistically, there's about 3 posts so far which actually have ironic events. The rest are just "huh, slight connection, I'll call it ironic!". Those 3 being: Arya and the dead princess Jaime preferring death to being crippled (losing the hand that pushed Bran isn't ironic, and this is a very loose ironic instance anyway) Jon not being allowed to fight Joffrey Ned executed Gared because Gared abandoned his sworn duty, Ned was executed because he would not abandon his, with the same sword. Only Gared told the truth in the end and Ned told a lie. That seems fairly ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usrnmhsnomning Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Jorah the slave works for me. Coincidence. Had Jorah been made a slave by one of those he was trying to sell into slavery? That's irony. Ned executed Gared because Gared abandoned his sworn duty, Ned was executed because he would not abandon his, with the same sword. Only Gared told the truth in the end and Ned told a lie. That seems fairly ironic. That's not irony. Not that I'm gonna spend anymore time making that clear, the thread still serves a purpose I suppose. It's still fun to see what people are posting anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roose The Weddingcrasher Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Have we damn agreed that Ned chopping off the guy's head was ironic or not?I disagree.The man of the NW didn't return to the NW to report the incident. Therefore he is undoubtedly guilty. On the other hand, I can't really hold Ned not wanting to turn his friend's last moments into hell against him. Also, he did not flee from his post. There is no irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansa_Stark Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Technically he did. He went into the throne room, told the king that he didn't deserve to sit on the throne and threatened to have him and his mother, the queen regent, arrested. That's treason. Joffrey wasn't Robert's heir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasporio Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Legally he was. So bad Robert was idiot or in denial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Baratheon Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Legally he was. So bad Robert was idiot or in denial. I think he didn't even know he had a son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmd Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 The irony police are really bringing this thread down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansa_Stark Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Legally he was. So bad Robert was idiot or in denial. Legally? Are you so sure about that? Neither Ned nor Stannis agree with that notion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasporio Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Because it fitted their goal to some extent i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansa_Stark Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Because it fitted their goal to some extent i guess. And neither did Catelyn. She called Stannis the lawful heir after considering Joff's parentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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