Trigger Warning Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 It's just speculation, I have no proof. Give me the guy that's been battling wildlings in freezing conditions for years over the guy who's been prancing around King's Landing. I do think in a tourney, 1v1, Loras would win handily. However, in the field of battle with other conditions playing a part - Jon would find a way to win, just me. Loras has fought on Dragonstone and in the vanguard at the Blackwater and killed Robar Royce and Emmon Cuy. We know he's an accomplished tournament knight and almost won a melee at Bitterbridge, so he probably spends his time smashing the shit out of other skilled knights in the melee quite often, which isn't as vanilla an affair as people seem to think, it's good battle practice. He doesn't prance he struts. And as far as Jon battling Wildings he kills one he sneaks up on, shoots arrows at the rest and chops some when a direwolf is tearing them apart. It doesn't even touch on Loras' experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrunesThatWasPromised Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Please don't remember me of that useless addition. They paid him 7 silvers to kill a man in Gin Alley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerionBrightflameII Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I don't think 1 Northman = 10 Southerners but i would say mentally they would be tougher. Ser Loras is a deadly knight but he is best with a Lance from horse back, in a straight up sword fight he would beat Jon but i don't think it would be a whitewash. Unfortunately i think Loras would win. Loras would not beat The Mountain though. The only reason he was brought down so easily against Oberyn was because of the poison...instead of prancing round screaming he should have just ended it. Sandor is very strong not as strong as his brother but still amazingly strong even Jaime thinks he is fast i don't think Loras could ever beat the Hound unless it was a joust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Arthur Hightower Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 1. Napoleon and Hitler were both fighting on several fronts against several opponents at once, and were outnumbered by the Russians. 2. Attrition had more of a role to play in either of their downfalls than "Northern toughness" Please don't mention those two in the same sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Doe Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 He is right though, although Napoleon and Hitler shall not be named in the same sentence, as you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild _Rover Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Doesn't Sir Barristan say something along the lines of when it all comes down to it any mad can beat anyone it all depends on luck a and whoever the gods favor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raving Stark the Mad Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Doesn't Sir Barristan say something along the lines of when it all comes down to it any mad can beat anyone it all depends on luck a and whoever the gods favor Chance always plays a role, but if chance were the only factor, why does Barry spend time training his squires, or training/practicing himself? Why does he wear armor? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLightning Lord Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 No, Jon is not some exceptional swordsman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoffa Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 No, Jon is not some exceptional swordsman. Yet Jamie would have Jon in his trial of seven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrunesThatWasPromised Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Lancel would shrek either of these n00bs if they weren't both dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BricksAndSparrows Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 ... and who is the better commander is completely irrelevant to who would win in a sword fight. Good luck getting that across. I said Ned Stark wasn't very good at the "Game of Thrones" and spent several posts trying to explain why that didn't make him a bad person. Why are people saying Loras was unblooded. By the time Jon did any killing, hadn't Loras slain two of the Rainbow guard? I would say the fight could turn in Jons favor, as it did against Iron Emmet, or Sandor against Lord Beric, But if there was money (mine that is) riding on the fight I'd bet on Loras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmrch Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 This is a silly thread and a silly comparison, Jon's role in ASOIAF isn't that of a fighter, no more than Ned's was. Its irrelevant whether he is a better or a worse swordsman than someone like Loras Tyrell who only exists in the serious for his skills with the blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy Hour Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 This is a silly thread and a silly comparison, Jon's role in ASOIAF isn't that of a fighter, no more than Ned's was. Its irrelevant whether he is a better or a worse swordsman than someone like Loras Tyrell who only exists in the serious for his skills with the blade. :agree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.