JonCon's Red Beard Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Wow- reread time because I completely missed that.... must have repressed it. It's not stated it. I think it's more like Jeyne saying something like "I'll do whatever he wants, even the dogs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Wolf Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 R+L=J, Jojen paste, Theon being sacraificed to resurrect Jon, Rickon's story is a shaggy dog story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Herman Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I kind of misread the title when I first saw it, I thought you were asking for things that we hope we never know the truth regarding, but you seem to be asking which theories do you want to be proved wrong. I don't want any theory to be wrong, because despite his flaws as a writer I want George to take the series down the path he feels is best. As for what answers I don't want, anything regarding Aegon, I don't care if he's really Rhaegar's son or not, only whether the characters in the book believe the claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Definitely Jojen Paste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnbentFury Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Cersei and Jaime or Tyrion being Targs. I hate this theory with a burning passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Howell Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Jojen Paste. I just...I don't think my heart (or stomach) could take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreativeName Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I sincerely hope Sandor = Gravedigger at the QI won't be confirmed in the books. I.e. he won't enter the stage again. I just love it the way it is right now, tbh. A fairly open, mysterious, somewhat happy and non-cliché kind of ending. Plus (AFAIK) Sandor being the very first character who's still alive and at the same time has completed his character arc from a tormented and hateful mind to a redeemed and forgiving one. From a literary standpoint, as it is now it's perfect in its little bubble, IMO. Unconventional, but brilliant. And I can dream, can't I? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeddinGuest Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 I kind of misread the title when I first saw it, I thought you were asking for things that we hope we never know the truth regarding, but you seem to be asking which theories do you want to be proved wrong. I don't want any theory to be wrong, because despite his flaws as a writer I want George to take the series down the path he feels is best. As for what answers I don't want, anything regarding Aegon, I don't care if he's really Rhaegar's son or not, only whether the characters in the book believe the claim. Actually, your first take isn't that far off from the intent of this topic. While some of the theories I mentioned are obviously going to be proven wrong or right at some point, there's no way to really DISprove the many hidden Targ theories. I'm sure GRRM can end the series without any Big Reveal that Tyrion, Jaime, or Cersei definitely were or weren't Tywin's biological children. Jojen paste may be never proved either way if, for example, Jojen never shows up in the story again. I also doubt the Robb-love potion theory will be actually disproved, I doubt GRRM will address it again, though he has stated that Jeyne Westerling DOES still have a role to play in the story. Same with "Aegon VI", I actually do think that keeping his true identity under wraps would make for an interesting literary direction. Because not all such mysteries are "solved" even in real history. For example, the question of who actually killed the Lindbergh baby. The official story was that Bruno Hauptmann did it, but a lot of people theorized that Hauptmann was railroaded, and the real killer was someone else, or even that Lindbergh himself killed his own son, either accidentally or not, and framed Hauptmann for it. (The fact that Lindbergh was actually a racist, Nazi-sympathizing jerk who essentially abandoned his wife later in his life likely helped spur on these rumors.) And yet, though the Conventional Wisdom for years was that Hauptmann was innocent, it seems many modern historians these days actually do think that (1) yes, he was railroaded and didn't get a fair trial and (2) he probably was guilty, and even a fair trial would have had the same outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 GNC and anything that involves Stannis tourning into the Night King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaeronDrumm Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I hope GRRM will suprise us by not proving any theory. He can't. So many things have been theorized or crackpotted, whatever he writes some theories gonna come out true one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facebookless Man Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Tyrion riding a dragon. What the hell, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facebookless Man Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 So many things have been theorized or crackpotted, whatever he writes some theories gonna come out true one way or another.Then again, most theories will outlast ADOS for the simple reason that the author won't resolve mysteries that were never actually there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pod The Rod Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Ramsay + Theon + "Arya" (Jayne) + whatever they did with one of his dogs. :ack: That's not in there at all, I just read that. Bad enough without that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Martell Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Then again, most theories will outlast ADOS for the simple reason that the author won't resolve mysteries that were never actually there. Good point, you are wise. We all just think about this stuff way too much and have too long between books. It reminds me of what happened between the fourth and fifth Harry Potter books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreativeName Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Then again, most theories will outlast ADOS for the simple reason that the author won't resolve mysteries that were never actually there. Like Syrio being alive? :P :leaving: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Calthrop Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I think Rickon is a horrible candidate to rule winterfell, because all he's proved so far is that he's a budding nutcase. That said, he'd be ahead of Arya in the line of succession, just by dint of being male. This is a patriarchal society set in a semi-medieval/feudal setting. In my "likely to die" scale, I don't think it's likely for Arya, but it's not out of the realm of possibility either. Also agree with you - I want Aegon to be fAegon. My #1 is any variant "Arya will die". NO. NON. NOPE. NEIN. NYET. NOT FUCKING HAPPENING. I abjure this whole idea ! :fencing:(I simply do not want it.) Many people seem to call for Rickon as the next / eventual lord of Winterfell. I do not think Rickon a good candidate to rule Winterfell, compared to all the other still-alive Starks. (Of course, it's still better to have any Stark than a non-Stark.) As well, I prefer the "Aegon is fake" option over the "Aegon is real" option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Sansa Stark Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I think Rickon is a horrible candidate to rule winterfell, because all he's proved so far is that he's a budding nutcase. That said, he'd be ahead of Arya in the line of succession, just by dint of being male. This is a patriarchal society set in a semi-medieval/feudal setting. In my "likely to die" scale, I don't think it's likely for Arya, but it's not out of the realm of possibility either. Also agree with you - I want Aegon to be fAegon. I don't see Arya dying ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Martell Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I don't see Arya dying ;) Wouldn't The George's wife be really mad, or some such nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Sansa Stark Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Wouldn't The George's wife be really mad, or some such nonsense? I think that was a joke, but the reason why I don't see Arya dying is because she is essentially the true Stark hero along with Sansa and Bran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pod The Rod Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Yeah, I thought I'd heard that Mrs. Martin had extracted a promise from him to not kill Arya, no matter what else he did. Or some such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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