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Waiting for Castamere: Houses That Should Have Been Destroyed Long Ago


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Almost every noble house betrayed another noble house.

Baratheon betrayed the Targaryens.

Stark betrayed the Targaryens.

Lannister betrayed the Targaryens.

Arryn betrayed the Targaryens.

Tully betrayed the Targaryens.

Blackfyre betrayed the Targaryens.

Martell betrayed the Baratheons.

Greyjoy betrayed the Baratheons.

Bolton betrayed the Starks.

Frey betrayed the Starks.

Karstarks betrayed the Starks,

Reynes betrayed the Lannisters.

Tarbecks betrayed the Lannisters.

Etc.

Fealty goes both ways though and not all betrayals are equal, under Aerys the Targs had shown no regard for the great lords. Is it betrayal to seek change and justice after your family has been kidnapped and tortured to death for the pleasure of those who you are supposed to be loyal to? The ones who were really treacherous and might need to be wiped out are those who betrayed others for profit or to save their own skins by sacrificing allies like the Boltons and Freys, but even then if you miss a few it can create cycles of revenge. Still they Greyjoys need to go, when a man puts a crown on his head he is saying that he will not accepting men as above him, you need to take the head away and not just the crown to stop them rising up again.

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Fealty goes both ways though and not all betrayals are equal, under Aerys the Targs had shown no regard for the great lords. Is it betrayal to seek change and justice after your family has been kidnapped and tortured to death for the pleasure of those who you are supposed to be loyal to? The ones who were really treacherous and might need to be wiped out are those who betrayed others for profit or to save their own skins by sacrificing allies like the Boltons and Freys, but even then if you miss a few it can create cycles of revenge. Still they Greyjoys need to go, when a man puts a crown on his head he is saying that he will not accepting men as above him, you need to take the head away and not just the crown to stop them rising up again.

That goes for the Starks and Lannisters too, right?

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Do you even understand the term betrayal or you are confusing Rebellion with Betrayal?

A rebellion against a liege lord is always a betrayal.

Robert Baratheon betrays his king, by rebelling against him, and taking later his crown.

Walder Frey betrays his king (Robb Stark), by betraying him and killing him in a massacre at a wedding.

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People do realize, destroying a House means killing the kids, which each House has....right? Kids and woman and even men who have done nothing wrong except follow their Lord's orders.



It's weird how people hate on the Frey's, but are ready to kill innocents just because their Lord betrayed someone...which is exactly what they Frey's did...lol


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People do realize, destroying a House means killing the kids, which each House has....right? Kids and woman and even men who have done nothing wrong except follow their Lord's orders.

One can simply send the boys to the Wall and marry off the daughters.

Besides, we never hear about multiple branches of House Bolton or them being as numerous as the Freys.

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That goes for the Starks and Lannisters too, right?

Pretty much, if a person with a crown gives it up odds are they will want to take it back. The exceptions are those ruled under the Targs who's dragons created a huge imbalance of power so the old 7 kingdoms gave up for so long they almost forgot they were kings. Its not surprising that both the North and Lannisters tried to make or control a king so soon after the king on the iron throne became weak and they had an excuse.

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The goddamn Greyjoys have done absolutely nothing to benefit any of the world. All they do is raid, raid, and attempt to conquer, all in vain. The Greyjoys should be wiped of the iron islands, and clean of this world. waste of life.

I think the excerpt from World of Ice and Fire mentions that the early Greyjoy lords after the conquest tried to held back pillaging and raiding because obviously their Targaryen lieges didn't like it.

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I don't really think any house should be exterminated.



The Boltons and recently the Karstarks keep the North from being one large Stark boner-fest.



The Freys, up until recently, haven't done anything to deserve even the thought of annihilation.


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The Greyjoys and Arryns don't have liegelords. Simply put, this thread is about Houses that have betrayed and the Starks (along with almost every other House) is in that category.

Well, actually, the Greyjoys and Arryns are sworn to the crown. Though in the case of Robert's Rebellion, the crown violated the feudal compact first.

My point was not whether they 'deserve' it, the point is that there's a bunch of houses out there who repeatedly betray their lieges are yet are still around for some reason.

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While I agree the Freys after RW are weasels, it's still Tywin who was the main motivator behind RW. Very unlikly Freys woulda carried out RW without Lannister backing.

I agree, so glad LS/Uncat is taking care of that and throwing in Boltons for good measure lol.

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A rebellion against a liege lord is always a betrayal.

Robert Baratheon betrays his king, by rebelling against him, and taking later his crown.

Walder Frey betrays his king (Robb Stark), by betraying him and killing him in a massacre at a wedding.

Betrayal happens from within camps. Did Robert fight for Targs then turned on,them? No. If he had done that then he would have called a traitor. But he, Ned, Jon Arryn, Hoster were called rebels not traitor. It wasnt like Blackfyres attacked from Essos and Vale, North, Riverlands, Stormland were fighting for Blavkfyres. That would have made them traitors.
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Thralls (slaves in all but names), salt wives (whores to breed children) are honourable positions? I cant even laugh on this rediculous, bullshit statement.

I'm guessing you haven't had much practice with sarcasm. Also its the rock wives who they birth children on, salt wives are for the iron born to have fun with. Its F***ed up but considering their geography with no food and few resources they don't have much choice but to turn to raiding (although they could have tried fishing more often) and cruel men thrive in those conditions.

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