Kyoshi Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Far from true. Knights fight for a cause they believe in, there are some of the low of the low, but others of high honor. Same as sellswords. Daario and his men are the low of the low, that is why he was in SB in the first place.I honestly don't understand how you can make that statement in the context of these books. One of the Knights we constantly see is Gregor, a man who participates in gang rape and other horrible acts. When Arya, and later Brienne, travels through the Riverlands we get to see just how honourable knights actually are, raping and pillaging and doing every bad thing you can possibly think of. In my book of honour Daario is far more honourable than any of these imbeciles. Another knight we know is Jaime, a man who pushed a child to his death and later tried to kill that child's sister, a man who's been having an affair with his sister his entire adult life.Other knights we know are in the a kingsguard. Individuals we know from the text have stood by as a man repeatedly raped his wife, burnt people for enjoyment and other mad things. Joffrey's kingsguard went as far as beating Sansa. I'm baffled, honestly I am. One of the codes of honour of knighthood is to protect the innocent, a code repeatedly undermined by the Knights we see in this book. Which brings me back to my original post, you sound like a Westerosi knight who believes the lie constantly perpetuated by singers and naive children. Meaning no offence. Daario is no Saint. But compared to the Knights we see in these books he comes very close to an angel. So we can throw out that argument and admit people just hate Daario for being Daario. Not because he's a storm crow and therefore the lowest sort of scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I said there are knights that are low. So Edmure has no honor? Dunk, Ar;an,Rodrik, Addam, Marbrand, Beric, Hyle, all low to Daario? Never said knights were all good, just some with honor and some not, just as sellswords. Daario is among the scum, as Gregor, brave fellows, and Second Sons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 EDIT: I also think that maybe people didn't have such a big problem with Daario immediately after Dance was published. I think that maybe one particularly influential poster expressed his/her opinion eloquently and passionately such that it became fashionable to hate him. Pretty soon it became difficult to view Daario as anything but a golden tooth and a blue, pronged beard. You'd be wrong. Daario was despised even before Dance was published. Daario is no Saint. But compared to the Knights we see in these books he comes very close to an angel. So we can throw out that argument and admit people just hate Daario for being Daario. Not because he's a storm crow and therefore the lowest sort of scum. At least those knights don't murder their comrades. Not much of a saving grace, but at least something. Please take off Dany's rose-colored lenses and look at what Daario does: Murder, betrayal, murder, betrayal of brothers in arms, extortion based on force of arms and dragons, murder of passion, and I'm damn sure that he routinely rapes as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 but he has blue eyes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Not all Bright Blue Eyes are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm the Party Pooper Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 but he has blue eyes... Me too. And White Walkers Undeads as well. But: Not all Bright Blue Eyes are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Not all Bright Blue Eyes are good. if it turns out they're purple though, there will be no stopping me from supporting Daario. As of now, he's just alright and not deserving of any extraneous hatred IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Not all Bright Blue Eyes are good. Are there any good blue eyes? :cool4: Mine own are brown, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I am surpise Dany supporters like him, he is using her to fill his and his men pockets. " Oh don't worry Dany, they are selling themselves, my men just need a cut." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoshi Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I'm not blind to what he is. He's shady for sure. Without a doubt. I don't fully trust him and neither does Dany. She knows what he is. But like Jaime says, we don't choose whom we love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I am surpise Dany supporters like him, he is using her to fill his and his men pockets. " Oh don't worry Dany, they are selling themselves, my men just need a cut." I don't mind him because she likes him. she's a big girl. she can make her own mistakes. but other than killing his comrades (and not defending slavers anymore which is a plus for me) I see no reason to think he's the worst thing to happen to the world ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 BBE, are you a undercover tyrell. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I have no issue with the sex, just what does in general sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoshi Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 And what does he do in general, other than the infamous killing of his captains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Stated before, and to much, used Dany to create extremely terrible policies to fill his and his men pockets. As well as being a bragger and he offended Ser Barry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm the Party Pooper Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Stated before, and to much, used Dany to create extremely terrible policies to fill his and his men pockets. As well as being a bragger and he offended Ser Barry. Sorry, which "terrible policies" are you talking about now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 The " oh they are selling themselves, so it's okay, my men are just taking a piece." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm the Party Pooper Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 The " oh they are selling themselves, so it's okay, my men are just taking a piece." Ahn. Well, I must say I don't have any particular feeling about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoshi Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I'd actually find it questionable if he weren't trying to fill his men's pockets, that's how sellswords abandon a company if I'm not mistaken. Dany never heeded his counsel to my knowledge, she flat out admits to herself she doesn't trust him so that argument pretty much falls apart. Barry is a prickly old man, offending him isn't exactly a feat. Ya Daario brags, I've already stated my opinion on this in an earlier post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 You wanted me to give you some general sucky things I gave you some. And she does listen t him, that is the problem, now his men can deal slaves " who want to sell themselves." Barry is only thing PR wise good in Dany's group, what right does he to call a man so legendary as Barry old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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