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It seems that the sword got stuck in Small Paul when the Other attacked Sam, Grenn, and Paul. Paul got impaled.

It isn't mentioned that they take the Other's sword back, and the next time we see Small Paul, there is no mention of a sword being stuck in him. The description of the fight Paul and Sam had makes it sound highly unlikely that the sword was still stuck in Paul.

So it got left behind, or lost, I guess

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I don't see why the sword wouldn't have melted along with the WW. It seems like it would have been mentioned, I mean how could a curious person like Sam ignore the presence of the sword?


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I don't see why the sword wouldn't have melted along with the WW. It seems like it would have been mentioned, I mean how could a curious person like Sam ignore the presence of the sword?

That's what I figured too but Puddles wasn't holding it when Samwell stabbed him. So why would it melt. I simply think it ceased to be important to the author once the George got it out of the other's hands.

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From TvTropes



  • Bizarre Seasons: One of the few overt signs of the supernatural in the first few books (and yes, according to Word of God, it's definitely magic, not something scientific like variations in the planet's orbit or axial tilt). Westeros's summers and winters both last for years. The length of seasons fluctuate apparently at random, but a long summer generally indicates a long winter to follow. What makes it more bizarre is that there is no indication that this is the case on any of the other continents.


This is an error, right? The seasons are also whacky on Essos, right?



Does this deserve a thread?

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Thus far the seasons in Essos have matched those in Westeros. It was summer in all of Dany's POV's in AGOT and then she went further south. It is also now snowing in Bravos as Winter has come. The confusion may lie in the fact that Dany and Aegon aren't shown to experience any winter conditions in their Dance chapters, but they are further south.


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Also, Bravos, which is at the northwest corner of Essos appears to be at a similar latitude to the Vale. And if the Free Cities along the western coast of Essos are warmed by currents from the Summer Isles, the effects of winter would be much less devastating in Essos. Close your eyes... there is no reason to unsuspend your disbelief for this :)

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I don't see why the sword wouldn't have melted along with the WW. It seems like it would have been mentioned, I mean how could a curious person like Sam ignore the presence of the sword?

Puddles was probably wearing some of that Other camouflage hi tech armor too, and considering the description, I think it's safe to assume that melted. So I think it would make sense (well, kinda) if the sword melted too.

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How long does it take to heel from third degree burns--let's say to your left forearm--sufficient for you to travel by horseback in rough terrain and to fight with a sword?

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How long does it take to heel from third degree burns--let's say to your left forearm--sufficient for you to travel by horseback in rough terrain and to fight with a sword?

Multiple months, the exact amount I don't know. Depending on whether or not you perform excercise, the limb might (partly) stiffen, partly due to scar tissue forming on the wound.

It would all depend on how big the burn was, and how it was treated.

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Multiple months, the exact amount I don't know. Depending on whether or not you perform excercise, the limb might (partly) stiffen, partly due to scar tissue forming on the wound.

It would all depend on how big the burn was, and how it was treated.

What if your forearm had actually caught fire while youvwere in a cave with no doctors or um maesters, not even a barber, to treat you? Just some girl named Willow who cleaned and dressed your would and put you out on the road as quick as possible...

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What if your forearm had actually caught fire while youvwere in a cave with no doctors or um maesters, not even a barber, to treat you? Just some girl named Willow who cleaned and dressed your would and put you out on the road as quick as possible...

Well, if the wound isn't properly treated, it will infect, and amputation might follow.

Assuming that Willow cleaned the wound well enough, that won't happen. (are we talking Sandor or Brienne here? Brienne didn't receive a burn, Sandor wasn't treated by Willow, IIRC?)

The wound should be washed and dressed frequently, I think. It would still take a few months to heal, and it won't heal pretty. Scarring will be left.

If this person was send on the road to fend for himself/herself, there would be frequent movement of the arm, I suspect, so the forearm most likely cannot be moved as flexible or painfree as it could before, but yeah, movement is still possible.

Whether such a person could still fight with a sword would depend on the previous talent said person had, and how he/she treated the arm during recovery time. Did the person refuse to move the arm during the recovery period? Then the arm will be more stiff than if the person kept using the arm.

I'm not sure how much the sense of pain is with such a burn, and especially, during the recovery. I can imagine that, when you have a lot of pain on your arm, that you don't move it as much (which would then have a negative effect on future use of the arm).

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Well, if the wound isn't properly treated, it will infect, and amputation might follow.

Assuming that Willow cleaned the wound well enough, that won't happen. (are we talking Sandor or Brienne here? Brienne didn't receive a burn, Sandor wasn't treated by Willow, IIRC?)

The wound should be washed and dressed frequently, I think. It would still take a few months to heal, and it won't heal pretty. Scarring will be left.

If this person was send on the road to fend for himself/herself, there would be frequent movement of the arm, I suspect, so the forearm most likely cannot be moved as flexible or painfree as it could before, but yeah, movement is still possible.

Whether such a person could still fight with a sword would depend on the previous talent said person had, and how he/she treated the arm during recovery time. Did the person refuse to move the arm during the recovery period? Then the arm will be more stiff than if the person kept using the arm.

I'm not sure how much the sense of pain is with such a burn, and especially, during the recovery. I can imagine that, when you have a lot of pain on your arm, that you don't move it as much (which would then have a negative effect on future use of the arm).

Sandor. Melly saw to his burns. He nabbed Arya less than two weeks later. Hmm...

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Sandor. Melly saw to his burns. He nabbed Arya less than two weeks later. Hmm...

Was he still heavily drinking? Did he have something to deal with the pain? Perhaps the painreceptors were injured to such an extend that the wound didn't hurt him, though I'm not that specialised in how pain receptors can be damaged, and the effect that this might have..

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Was he still heavily drinking? Did he have something to deal with the pain? Perhaps the painreceptors were injured to such an extend that the wound didn't hurt him, though I'm not that specialised in how pain receptors can be damaged, and the effect that this might have..

Well, it was magic fire so maybe his wounds healed faster magically...especially since he was found not guilty :)

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If your talking about that incident then I don't think 3rd degree burn is accurate, 3rd degree means down to the bone and that doesn't occur with just a few seconds, especially considering Sandor was wearing multiple layers including mail.


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If Sandor was in pain afterward then it cannot be a 3rd degree burn since a full thickness burn results in the person feeling no pain because the nerve endings are destroyed.


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