JonSnow4President Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Sounds like you want to make-believe that he said that, even though he did not. Just like everyone who thinks 8 is closer to 0 than 12 is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyPolly Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Just like everyone who thinks 8 is closer to 0 than 12 is? I'm not sure why you want to change the subject. But yes. 8 is closer to 0 than 12 is. Whether everyone thinks it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Cold Fingers Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 Just like everyone who thinks 8 is closer to 0 than 12 is? Closer in counting, appearance, sound or difficulty in writing? It's all a matter of perspective. Just like when Ygritte calls Jon a southerner (or something to that affect). Jon says he is not, he is from the North. But he was a southerner to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnow4President Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I'm not sure why you want to change the subject. But yes. 8 is closer to 0 than 12 is. Whether everyone thinks it or not. My point being anyone who says what I mentioned is the correct interpretation of "probably closer to 8-9 months than a year" is hearing what they want to hear. Also about 90% sure you're one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyPolly Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 My point being anyone who says what I mentioned is the correct interpretation of "probably closer to 8-9 months than a year" is hearing what they want to hear. I even think it is perfectly possible that GRRM is lying to his readers outright. But it is a stretch to call true statements lies. I also wonder how statements of probability can ever be proven to be lies. Also about 90% sure you're one of them. Why the uncertainty? I just told you that I believe (12 - 0) > (12 - 8). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnow4President Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I even think it is perfectly possible that GRRM is lying to his readers outright. But it is a stretch to call true statements lies. I also wonder how statements of probability can ever be proven to be lies. Why the uncertainty? I just told you that I believe (12 - 0) > (12 - 8). Because I didn't check the Dany are Twins theory, so I'm giving myself a 10% chance it's another person with a green parrotish bird as their avatar as being the person who said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Cold Fingers Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 So...anyone still think that Benjen is the Three-Eyed Crow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyPolly Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Because I didn't check the Dany are Twins theory, so I'm giving myself a 10% chance it's another person with a green parrotish bird as their avatar as being the person who said it. What do you mean "green parrotish bird". That's a PARROT you see. A genuine eclectus parrot, from New Guinea. The best parrots in the world. That said, I have no idea what "it" is. Are you trying to disagree with me about something? I don't recall what I did not did not say in other threads but I do believe (12 -0) > (12 - 8), regardless of whether I said it before. And if I said differently before, I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyPolly Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 So...anyone still think that Benjen is the Three-Eyed Crow? Hey, it's possible. Bran may have gotten intercepted and diverted by the 1001 eyed crow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reckoner Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 My theory that is somewhat disproven is that Howland Reed sent the assassin after Bran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnow4President Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 What do you mean "green parrotish bird". That's a PARROT you see. A genuine eclectus parrot, from New Guinea. The best parrots in the world. That said, I have no idea what "it" is. Are you trying to disagree with me about something? I don't recall what I did not did not say in other threads but I do believe (12 -0) > (12 - 8), regardless of whether I said it before. And if I said differently before, I was wrong. That because George said "probably closer to 8-9 months than a year," that Jon and Dany are twins. That was "it." It's taking something that in every single other setting means one thing and trying to twist it to fit what you want to hear, which related to the post that started this little deviation. As far as the bird, I can't tell the difference between a parrot, a McCaw, a Quetzal, or any other tropical bird that looks like a parrot, so I'm covering my bases. I'm an accountant, not an ornithologist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyPolly Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 That because George said "probably closer to 8-9 months than a year," that Jon and Dany are twins. I'm pretty sure I never made such an argument. The conclusion does not follow from the premise. I may have disagreed with the argument "That because George said "probably closer to 8-9 months than a year," that Jon and Dany are NOT twins." I may have pointed out that the conclusion does not follow from the premise in that case either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unitron Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 This is what I always thought, too. I'm pretty sure Tysha is dead. As martyrs to patriarchy and men's sex drives, they should go to heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unitron Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 My theory that is somewhat disproven is that Howland Reed sent the assassin after Bran Assuming you ever took the possibility seriously, what would have been his motive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unitron Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 And a book later it is specifically stated that Sam is older than Jon.. while Sam had already turend 16, Jon is still 15.. Does it specify how long Sam had been 16 to Jon's 15 at that point? It could have been a matter of a single day and be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Does it specify how long Sam had been 16 to Jon's 15 at that point? It could have been a matter of a single day and be true.No, it isn't specified in that chapter.Looking at a rough timeline from the books, though, you can get the general picture. Robb and Jon were born extremely close together, and Robb was born some 9 months into the year. Sam is already sixteen when the Great Ranging begins, early in the year. So while Sams nameday fall in one of the earlier months, Jons falls in the later months of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unitron Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 No, it isn't specified in that chapter.Looking at a rough timeline from the books, though, you can get the general picture. Robb and Jon were born extremely close together, and Robb was born some 9 months into the year. Sam is already sixteen when the Great Ranging begins, early in the year. So while Sams nameday fall in one of the earlier months, Jons falls in the later months of the year. Sam gets sent to the Wall on his 15th name day, so figure maybe a month or less of traveling time. At some point not terribly long before Sam actually shows up at the Wall, Jon's 15th passes without Benjen having returned. So I figure their age difference is within 1 day to about 2 months, 3 at the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Sam gets sent to the Wall on his 15th name day, so figure maybe a month or less of traveling time. At some point not terribly long before Sam actually shows up at the Wall, Jon's 15th passes without Benjen having returned. So I figure their age difference is within 1 day to about 2 months, 3 at the outside.Sam travels in a group from Horn Hill, located in the Reach, to the Wall. Seeing as already two months are needed to travel from Winterfell to Kings Landing, one month from Horn Hill to the Wall by horse is very very short.I'd say his travels took quite a bit longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bironic Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Samwell Tarly would have travelled faster than Roberts retinue. No giant wheelhouse & huge baggage train needed. But of course he had the longer journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Not so sure about that one. Perhaps Bran's efforts to reach the 3-eyed crow were foiled when he was intercepted and trapped by the sinister 1001-eyed raven. Now THAT is an interesting thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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