larastone Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 A decent amount of people think that Jaime is in HUGE trouble right now since Brienne is luring him towards Stoneheart, some people even thinking he's going to meet his end with stoneheart! but considering the amount of shock "deaths" and chapter end cliffhangers GRRM threw in AFFC/ADWD (hell even in ASOS with Arya during the Red Wedding). and also I know that show and books are two separate entities and that D&D are increasingly taking more liberties, but SO FAR they have introduced and included all the major major aspects and from what we know of Season 5 so far, it seems like they're continuing to include other important characters and facets from the books. I mean GRRM himself said that the Sand Snakes will play a huge role in TWOW and the show included them, while also including the Faith Militant and Dorne, so the show just cutting out Stoneheart altogether makes me question whether Stoneheart is less important than we think and how important her inclusion in Jaime and Brienne's arc really is. Also GRRM recently said this about Jaime and Cersei: Well, as for the books, I have two more to write. I’m certainly going to be dealing with Jaime. Jaime and Cersei’s relationship is in a very different place in the books than the show has reached now. They are effectively estranged now. Jaime is very angry with Cersei over the stuff that Tyrion told him—that she’s been sleeping with Lancel and the Kettleblacks and Moon Boy. And the Kettleblacks and Moon Boy don’t even exist in the series. Note how he only said that "he's going to be dealing with Jaime" and NOT Cersei. That makes me think that Cersei's storyline is much more of a spoiler than Jaime's storyline, in which he kept completely quiet about her. Because I highly doubt that GRRM is going to kill Cersei off first thing in the beginning of TWOW in the sense that he won't have to deal with her at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A spoon of knife and fork Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 IMO there's no way Jaime dies before he tells Daenerys about Aerys' crimes and how he died. There's a narrative reason why she hasn't found out yet and his name is Jaime Lannister.(Plus he and Brienne have to have lots of sex and babies, ok maybe not but pleaaaaase GRRM?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword of the Morgan Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 IMO there's no way Jaime dies before he tells Daenerys about Aerys' crimes and how he died. There's a narrative reason why she hasn't found out yet and his name is Jaime Lannister.(Plus he and Brienne have to have lots of sex and babies, ok maybe not but pleaaaaase GRRM?) That's interesting. They are certainly far apart proximity-wise right now, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 For different reasons I agree. I don't hold any faith in the show being an accurate storyline, but I don't think Brienne will lead Jaime to his death. Either Stoneheart intends to use Jaime somehow, or Brienne and him will make some sort of plan. Brienne said sword to save Pod, could she really, effectively, kill Jaime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larastone Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 For different reasons I agree. I don't hold any faith in the show being an accurate storyline, but I don't think Brienne will lead Jaime to his death. Either Stoneheart intends to use Jaime somehow, or Brienne and him will make some sort of plan. Brienne said sword to save Pod, could she really, effectively, kill Jaime? I never believed that Stoneheart or Brienne would kill Jaime, but now I'm starting to think that Jaime just isn't really in much danger at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Between Jaime, Brienne and Stoneheart, Jaime is the only one I'm confident will survive this encounter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Also, Nikolaj Coster Waldau is one of the actors signed for season 6 and 7, if that makes any difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoamingRonin Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I'm eager to see how he escapes Stoneheart but yeah I don't think he's in mortal peril. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faydra Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I'm sticking with Bran's vision and believe that Jaime and the Hound are going to cross paths with the Stark girls. For that, they have to be alive. Sometimes a cliffhanger is a spoiler in itself as the characters always seem to find their way back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larastone Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 Also, Nikolaj Coster Waldau is one of the actors signed for season 6 and 7, if that makes any differenceNo the entire cast signed that contrast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I sure hope GRRM will tell us who the man armored like the sun in brans vision was when all is said and done. I find it very hard to believe it was Jaime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 No the entire cast signed that contrast They did? Huh, I guess that's not spoilerish information then And here I was glad Queen Natalie was also signed for s7 :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larastone Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 They did? Huh, I guess that's not spoilerish information then And here I was glad Queen Natalie was also signed for s7 :( the contract gives them a raise for seasons 5 and 6 and gives the possibility of them being included in an optional season 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dofs Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I sure hope GRRM will tell us who the man armored like the sun in brans vision was when all is said and done. I find it very hard to believe it was Jaime. I wonder if it was Littlefinger, because Tyrion once flat out thought that it's not Jaime who is golden, it's Littlefinger. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I always thought it was Oberyn, because him and the Hound were both shown in front of and underneath the mountain, who they both wanted to kill, and Oberyn was also armored like the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larastone Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 I always thought it was Oberyn, because him and the Hound were both shown in front of and underneath the mountain, who they both wanted to kill, and Oberyn was also armored like the sun. i think the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forelver Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 If Jaime dies from his encounter with Stoneheart, that kills the Jaime is the Valonquor theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wedding Cake Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I hope Stoneheart hangs Jamie to death just to shock you all. The only other satisfactory outcome is she makes Jamie promise something dreadful to repay his debt. Sometimes I like to put on my crackpot hat and believe it will be both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larastone Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 If Jaime dies from his encounter with Stoneheart, that kills the Jaime is the Valonquor theory this entire post is about how stoneheart hanging jaime seems more and more unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forelver Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 this entire post is about how stoneheart hanging jaime seems more and more unlikely Right, that was what I meant, that I thought it was unlikely Jaime would get hanged because then he couldn't be the valonquor later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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