If Stannis was Aware of Daenerys...

[Chinoiserie]

People say that Stannis has the right from Robert's conquest and because Tommen is not the rightfull king and so the Targaryans have no claim. But what if Aegon (Blackfyre or not) gets the throne by conquest? What do you think of Stannisis claim to the throne then?

But in any case I hope that Stannis could yield to Daenerys since it would be good character development for both of them. Stannis could prove he does not want the throne because of ambition and he is true steel and not iron that breaks. And Daenerys could prove she is cabable of seeing that not all "Usurpers dogs" are the same and she can but what is best for the realm before her own desire for revenge. It would be unexpected and more interesting than if Stannis would die as a king.

My first post this forum. Apologies if there are mistakes, I am writing in the from my iPhone and my English could be better.

[the storm king returns]

Stannis would bend the knee to Daenarys if she comes thru stunting like a pimp on Drogon and is Westeros hope against the WW, his duty is to the realm and if Danny is best for the realm he would accept it.

[Kaibaman]

By all laws Stannis is the legal king of Westeros. While there is a kind of Targaryen claim its pretty much identical at this point to the Blackfyre claim.

And yet the Blackfyres were quite successful at getting many lords to fight for their claim whenever an exile of their family came to Westeros to press their claim. Maybe Stannis is seen as the legal king by some lords but there are those who still support the Targs who will fight to restore them to the Iron Throne. If the Blackfyre Rebellions have taught us anything its that there will always be men willing to fight for someone with a good claim, to put them into power. And frankly Dany's claim is a lot stronger than Stannis's.

[Lion of the West]

Stannis would bend the knee to Daenarys if she comes thru stunting like a pimp on Drogon and is Westeros hope against the WW, his duty is to the realm and if Danny is best for the realm he would accept it.

No, he wouldn't. His duty is to be king and its his duty as king to do what's best for the realm. Thus he will not bend for the sake of someone else's claim no matter who it is or what it might mean. He could temporary ally, yes, but he'll not give up.

And yet the Blackfyres were quite successful at getting many lords to fight for their claim whenever an exile of their family came to Westeros to press their claim. Maybe Stannis is seen as the legal king by some lords but there are those who still support the Targs who will fight to restore them to the Iron Throne. If the Blackfyre Rebellions have taught us anything its that there will always be men willing to fight for someone with a good claim, to put them into power. And frankly Dany's claim is a lot stronger than Stannis's.

I picked the Blackfyre as an example for just that reason. Problem is of course that Robert had the the support of many more Houses, it seems, than even Daemon managed to get together.

And in regards to the throne Stannis has the stronger claim. His brother held the throne and then died without trueborn issue and thus Stannis is next in line. Daenerys' father lost the throne, the realm hailed his enemy as king and so she was removed from succession, and even if we count the Targaryen succession then Aegon comes before Daenerys due to gender.

[The silver dragon]

No, he wouldn't. His duty is to be king and its his duty as king to do what's best for the realm. Thus he will not bend for the sake of someone else's claim no matter who it is or what it might mean. He could temporary ally, yes, but he'll not give up.

I picked the Blackfyre as an example for just that reason. Problem is of course that Robert had the the support of many more Houses, it seems, than even Daemon managed to get together.

And in regards to the throne Stannis has the stronger claim. His brother held the throne and then died without trueborn issue and thus Stannis is next in line. Daenerys' father lost the throne, the realm hailed his enemy as king and so she was removed from succession, and even if we count the Targaryen succession then Aegon comes before Daenerys due to gender.

1.) How many houses does stannis have the support of? like five? guess that makes tommen the rightful king. cause he usurped from stannis and currently sits it.

because the realm hails stannis as an enemy and he was removed from succession.

he has no claim to the IT by your definition.

2.) i just love how stannis constantly gripes about his "rights" when he claims himself as the heir of a usurper. hell even renly comments on this and how Robert "claim" was pretty dam weak (a royal great grandfather's youngest child who's a female) and the only reason he ever got the crown was because of his charisma and friendships, and a big army.

(Robert was fifth in line [rhaegar>aegon>viserys>rhaeys>Bob] when he declared his rebellion, Renly was also fifth in line [joff>tommen>mycella> stannis>renly], Robert had as much claim as renly did {a weak on})

and what does stannis do? call him a Usurper, the irony has no words.

3.) it's either you can lawfully Usurp a throne from another dynasty or you can't.

if you can tommen king because most of the realm has sworn fealty to tommen,

if you can't then its dany or aegon then stannis.

[The Drunkard]

The wrinkle would be that Tommen didn't usurp the throne from another dynasty. Officially, he derives his claim from being Robert's son and heir. The reader (and Stannis) knows that it isn't the case, that Stannis is Robert's real heir.

[The silver dragon]

The wrinkle would be that Tommen didn't usurp the throne from another dynasty. Officially, he derives his claim from being Robert's son and heir. The reader (and Stannis) knows that it isn't the case, that Stannis is Robert's real heir.

that's technicality on a piece of paper and you know it is.

it's either the best blood claim makes the rightful king or the support of the realm makes the king.

stannis has neither.

[The Drunkard]

If it was a meaningless technicality they would do away with it, but that isn't the case. The Lannister-Tyrell regime is quite insistent on keeping up the lie lest they lose all legitimacy.

Said legitimacy comes from Robert, as it does with Stannis. The conflict between Stannis and Joffrey (and then Tommen) isn't one dynasty kicking out another, it's a single dynasty fighting over who Robert's true heir is. Officially (and that matters).

[Kaibaman]

I picked the Blackfyre as an example for just that reason. Problem is of course that Robert had the the support of many more Houses, it seems, than even Daemon managed to get together.

And in regards to the throne Stannis has the stronger claim. His brother held the throne and then died without trueborn issue and thus Stannis is next in line. Daenerys' father lost the throne, the realm hailed his enemy as king and so she was removed from succession, and even if we count the Targaryen succession then Aegon comes before Daenerys due to gender.

Robert got lucky because Aerys pissed off a lot of people so he and his allies were fighting for justice. If Robert tried to claim the Iron Throne by merit of his Targaryen heritage alone and without a just cause. I doubt he would have been very successful.

If Robert's hold over the Iron Throne was so indisputable then why did he fear that if a Targaryen returned to Westeros, his kingship would be challenged not only by them but also by many lords in Westeros? Robert himself pointed out that although many of the lords have bent the knee and claim loyalty, in private those same lords would gladly kill him in his sleep. That is why he would rather kill the last Targaryen heirs now because he sees "the shadow of the axe when it is hanging over my own neck.”

Some have argued that Robert was simply paranoid or just reopening an old wound. But Robert was a lot more insightful than people give him credit for. There are Targaryen loyalists in Westeros who don't acknowledge him as the rightful king and are working against him. Targ Loyalists such as the Dornish will flip the moment a Targ comes to reclaim the Iron Throne. Just like the Blackfyres, so long as they live Robert and his heirs will not have a very secure hold over the kingdoms.

Stannis while also claiming to be the lawful king must also take this into consideration. That many will back the heirs of the previous dynasty and if Dany or Aegon take the Iron Throne his days will be numbered. I think just like Robert he is in way too deep right now to change course.

[Ferocious Veldt Roarer]

By all laws Stannis is the legal king of Westeros. While there is a kind of Targaryen claim its pretty much identical at this point to the Blackfyre claim.

Actually, Stannis' claim is so uncanny similar to the Blackfyre claim it must be intentional. He started his campaign on the foundation of the acknowledged heir being a bastard. Lost a decisive battle and ran quite big a distance, yet didn't give up and still styles himself king. That really doesn't sound familiar?

[Wavey Sauce]

The only legit claim Dany has to the throne is the right by conquest

All else it is Stannis plain and simple

[TheSpottedCat]

It would be very interesting to see Stannis' reaction when Daenerys appears in Westeros, but not for the reason the OP gives. Her claim to the throne is not the most important bit about her. The important bit is that Stannis believes and claims to be Azor Ahai come again, and that he will wake dragons from stone with king's blood. It will be very interesting what he and Melisandre will do when they find out that Daenerys has actually succeeded to hatch petrified dragon eggs (metaphorically waking dragons from stone), while they have failed. Not to mention that some of the Red Priests on Essos have begun to hail Daenerys as Azor Ahai reborn. Even if she turns out not to be AAR, she's still a more likely candidate than Stannis.