Night's_King666 Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 This back story is for something. I agree. Some believe it is the altered story of the LC who made peace with the Others and ended the Long Night. But if it has any purpose for today, I would say it is to open the speculation about Jon becoming the new NK. HBO Night King looks like a cartoon super-villain to me. I don't feel he enters in GRRM panel of complex characters. Just me, however. Well i think he looks pretty awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodraven's Bastard Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Well i think he looks pretty awesome. Well, I think he does, too. But I think that your original premise is rather weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
239JMFL34109 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I think the show did a great job of showing that there is a personality with the character. he was straight up showing off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon316 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 The show turned the others from a beautiful deadly form of life into an evil ugly monster and i dont approve like with much of D&ds changes. The others can not be pure evil its not grrms style. To them men must seem like the evil ones. Its always just perspective that makes someone good or evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
239JMFL34109 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The show turned the others from a beautiful deadly form of life into an evil ugly monster and i dont approve like with much of D&ds changes. The others can not be pure evil its not grrms style. To them men must seem like the evil ones. Its always just perspective that makes someone good or evil i think they did a good job as getting them book like would either be very fake looking like the first pilot or crazy expensive like a season budget a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night's_King666 Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 i think they did a good job as getting them book like would either be very fake looking like the first pilot or crazy expensive like a season budget a shot. thing is…Stannis is just as evil as the NK, he burned his own daughter alive. I hope the WW's invade and kick his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~DarkHorse~ Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 To be honest, after Melisandre's glee over Shireen burning, I would rather see Jon team up with the NK as opposed to him getting cosy with Melisandre and being her 'Lords chosen.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
239JMFL34109 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 thing is…Stannis is just as evil as the NK, he burned his own daughter alive. I hope the WW's invade and kick his ass. I think they are waiting in line behind brienne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise Above Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 This back story is for something. I agree. Some believe it is the altered story of the LC who made peace with the Others and ended the Long Night. But if it has any purpose for today, I would say it is to open the speculation about Jon becoming the new NK. HBO Night King looks like a cartoon super-villain to me. I don't feel he enters in GRRM panel of complex characters. Just me, however. I love ASOIAF but a lot of people have this idea of it being way more complex and subversive than it really is. It's mostly just brutal medieval history rehashed with some fantasy elements thrown in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night's_King666 Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 I think they are waiting in line behind brienne good point. Hope he gets killed by the swing of her sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Emperor of Yi Ti Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 High-level plot: Others and dragons need to "unite", i.e. annihilate each other for mankind to survive in a world without magic. that's been my feeling all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HousePotterz Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 To be honest, after Melisandre's glee over Shireen burning, I would rather see Jon team up with the NK as opposed to him getting cosy with Melisandre and being her 'Lords chosen.' I mean, if Jon is truly dead, then I guess he doesn't get the option of deciding who resurrects him. But I agree, my hope now that we've seen the true nature of Stannis and Melisandre is that if anyone does the resurrection of Jon Snow, it's his little bro Bran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalerionTheCat Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I mean, if Jon is truly dead, then I guess he doesn't get the option of deciding who resurrects him. But I agree, my hope now that we've seen the true nature of Stannis and Melisandre is that if anyone does the resurrection of Jon Snow, it's his little bro Bran. I could have been wrong, and still be wrong. But I was sure neither Melisandre nor R'hllor could resurrect someone. Only the god of death can bring back a soul. R'hllor or a shadowbinder can heal someone, even someone dead, but he could do no better job than Khal Drogo. I believe Beric and Cat have been resurrected by the Stranger or Lion of Night according to the Yi-Ti legends, not Thoros who is a fallen priest. BTW, the same god who called the 1st Long Night and apparently commands the Others. If resurrection there is, my bet is it will be by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Darry Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 GRRM made this comment on his blog today As for the Night's King (the form I prefer), in the books he is a legendary figure, akin to Lann the Clever and Brandon the Builder, and no more likely to have survived to the present day than they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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~DarkHorse~ Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 GRRM made this comment on his blog today I'm going to be really disappointed if this is true and the show NK is just using the book legends name, not the actual character. Him being the 13th Lord Commander and a Stark adds so much. Having him just being the leading bad guy with a cool name is just.... :dunce: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Darry Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Link? http://grrm.livejournal.com/428790.html?thread=21724918#t21724918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost's Shadow Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Thank you! That's just weird, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcat987 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 GRRM made this comment on his blog today Not sure how it could play out, but perhaps he is being sly and indicating Lann the Clever and/or Bran the Builder will make an appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost's Shadow Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 You could be right, but I personally wouldn't count on that. I guess that could mean that Others die of old age as well, just like dragons do, if not killed? Perhaps they forgot about the Pact, if there was one that involved them and if that's what this is all about, just as the humans might have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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