The Dames do Moan Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 That Jon is all three heads of the Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyer of Nations Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 That Jon is all three heads of the Dragon God, that would piss me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Cross Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 R + L = J Because I hate Jon Snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Than a Storm Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 Don't want to be mean, but...any "theory" espoused by Daen Targaryen. Same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir popelor Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Eh? You don't have to stray from the text to conclude that the FM are involved in more than assassinations: The FM didn't start as assassins. The first of them apparently gave the gift of euthanasia. The subsequent gift to the masters also is implied to be the Doom (this isn't a certainty by any stretch of the imagination, but the implication is there). I still don't like the theories of their conspiracies, like that they're helping the Others or that they're more then involved in Westeros politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thi4f Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I wouldn't like Jon Snow story anymore if R+L=J was confirmed. Same goes fore A+J=T and other Targaryen lineage-related theories.When I finished reading ADwD I had bitter feelings in EVERYTHING IS ALREADY SET AND BOUND TO HAPPEN mold. I really hope that GRRM will surprise us and most of these theories will prove wrong in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Viserys Targaryen IV Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I wouldn't like Jon Snow story anymore if R+L=J was confirmed. Same goes fore A+J=T and other Targaryen lineage-related theories. When I finished reading ADwD I had bitter feelings in EVERYTHING IS ALREADY SET AND BOUND TO HAPPEN mold. I really hope that GRRM will surprise us and most of these theories will prove wrong in the end. I love people think that R+L=J or A+J=T are NOT surprises or are too predictable. With out the internet and the 15 + years that GRRM has taken to finish 95% of the people on here would have no idea that these were going to happen (myself included)\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Than a Storm Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 I love people think that R+L=J or A+J=T are NOT surprises or are too predictable. With out the internet and the 15 + years that GRRM has taken to finish 95% of the people on here would have no idea that these were going to happen (myself included)\ I agree. Saying something is "too obvious" isn't a good arguement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thi4f Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Well you clearly misunderstood me. I didn't claim that GRRM writing is too obvious.I don't know which direction the story is heading, but after reading ADwD I had a feeling that some storyline endings became improbable. For instance, I started worrying about Stannis Baratheon cause - he still may very well be the victor/savior of Westeros, but in my opinion, chances are slim. It's just one of the bad feelings I had after reading ADwD.I hope my instincts are wrong and I'll be pleasantly surprised when TWoW finally comes around. Regarding those major theories, I don't like most of them for other reasons. Again, I haven't said those things are transparent in source material. For example, if R+L=J is true, I think GRRM has done a good job of hiding it and sending us slight hints along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Conover Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Personally, I would be most satisfied to learn that the vast majority of fan theories are entirely false. The only exceptions would be Cleganebowl and Roose Bolton being an immortal face stealing monster. The big theories like R+L=J or anything to do with the identity of Azor Ahai or the "dragon must have three heads" stuff have always irked me. As a whole, R+L=J is the most widespread largely because it is one of the most obvious. It seems like the whole show/books have been building up these fatalistic, albeit blatantly obvious prophecies about the end. If for example, Dany wins, turns out to be Azor Ahai, rides a dragon along with Tyrion and Jon and then claims the throne and then lives happily ever after, I would be rather disappointed. I expect GRRM to surprise us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliser Trump Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I wanna be surprised, too. I would hate for GRRM to be spending all of these years to finish a story who's ending we have already figured out. I expect for there to be a few more twists and turns, and I also expect for a few mysteries to remain unsolved even after the story ends. Just like Tom Bombadil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonisHenryTudor Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I love people think that R+L=J or A+J=T are NOT surprises or are too predictable. With out the internet and the 15 + years that GRRM has taken to finish 95% of the people on here would have no idea that these were going to happen (myself included)\ People seem to forget this little point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahai Ahoy Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 ^ True. If he writes slowly enough than we will theorise all probabilities. Someone will predict it all correctly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StannisForKing299AL Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 That Tormunds manhood is longer than Mance's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durran Durrandon Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Guys, what is "lemongate"? Is it something about Sansa? http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/87889-there-are-no-lemon-trees-in-braavos-questioning-danys-childhood/ Short story short. There are no lemon trees in Braavos, so Dany can't have grown up in Braavos.There are no lemon cakes in Bravos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durran Durrandon Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Any of the x character is going mad theories. Almost always a female character, funny that.^^^^ This.I would add to that, "Daenerys is evil (despite showing more moral restraint than just about every other character with power in the series.)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalerionTheCat Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I love people think that R+L=J or A+J=T are NOT surprises or are too predictable. With out the internet and the 15 + years that GRRM has taken to finish 95% of the people on here would have no idea that these were going to happen (myself included)\ True. In 10 or 50 years from here. People will read the books in sequence and will be surprised and delighted by this and that. What we have found until now, or we will found before the very end, should not matter, or influence GRRM writing in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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