NotGayLaenorValryon Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Presently, Little Finger (he caused war of 5 kings) Future, Euron. If he seduces and marries Dany, (which could be VERY possible if you belive Daario=Euron) the ironborn would be absolutely unstoppable. I'm personally a little nervous. Oh and Dothraki. You can't imagine how much I hate Dothraki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Future, Euron. If he seduces and marries Dany, (which could be VERY possible if you belive Daario=Euron) the ironborn would be absolutely unstoppable. I'm personally a little nervous. Well, there's your mistake. That theory is cuckoo pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis broatheon Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 And that argument wouldn't hold, because that's not a "cause." LF could have done many things with his life after his time in RR, but he decided to screw the country over because of his own hurt ego. Read the OP, you dont need to do it on porpous to cause the most damage. I am a huge Cat fan by the way I am not a hater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Read the OP, you dont need to do it on porpous to cause the most damage. I am a huge Cat fan by the way I am not a hater. That's still not a cause though, because her mercy did not force Petyr's hand in becoming the world's biggest cuntstain. If we define cause that loosely, then Petyr's parents would have the most blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis broatheon Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 That's still not a cause though, because her mercy did not force Petyr's hand in becoming the world's biggest cuntstain. If we define cause that loosely, then Petyr's parents would have the most blame. You could argue that the thread is stupid. But Cat and Brandom were the ones that turned LF into what he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 You could argue that the thread is stupid. But Cat and Brandom were the ones that turned LF into what he is Who said it wasn't stupid? LF did all that to himself because he's a weakling. A stronger person wouldn't have thrown a twenty year hissy fit about something he never should have been dabbling in in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boarsbane Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Robert's parents. They gave birth to not one, not two, but THREE vile usurpers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis broatheon Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Who said it wasn't stupid? LF did all that to himself because he's a weakling. A stronger person wouldn't have thrown a twenty year hissy fit about something he never should have been dabbling in in the first place. LF frustration made him what he is. And this frustration started with the society he lives, Cat and Brandom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 LF frustration made him what he is. And this frustration started with the society he lives, Cat and Brandom. Who did not create society, nor did they make him choose the duel or choose to steer the country in war. I hold LF and LF only responsible for his own decisions. Like an adult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGimletEye Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 LF frustration made him what he is. And this frustration started with the society he lives, Cat and Brandom. Poorl little LF. His daddy didn't take him to Pittsburgh Pirate games. Boo hoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis broatheon Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Who did not create society, nor did they make him choose the duel or choose to steer the country in war. I hold LF and LF only responsible for his own decisions. Like an adult. He is responsible for everything. Never said that Cat was. I just said that Cat had a huge influence on the man that we know as LF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grail King Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 GRRM. I can't disagree :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grail King Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 He is responsible for everything. Never said that Cat was. I just said that Cat had a huge influence on the man that we know as LF. No, not Cat, I say Hoster Tully when he kicked LF out of River Run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis broatheon Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 No, not Cat, I say Hoster Tully when he kicked LF out of River Run. Well following the logic of the Op it could be Hoster too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 so, Brandon should had gone and said "ah, Petyr... it's so bad you were born poor. Take my bride, be happy and fuck all the alliances our parents have made for our lands because love overtakes society!". If Brandon had killed LF, we wouldn't be having all the problems we have today. No one was going to mourn LF except Cat. No wars were going to be fought in name of LF. Cat asked Brandon not to hurt him and Brandon agreed. If anything, they were kind towards him. I love how people often blames Sansa for everything due to her naivety, but LF's own naivety caused all this mess. Why do you think he told Sansa that songs are just songs? Because he ALSO BELIEVED on them. He thought his love and will would help him to defeat Brandon and that Cat would run into his arms. It did not. And after his songs didn't come to happen, he decided to destroy all of the "monsters". And I say "monsters" because that's how he sees everything: like a game. Ah, the "game of thrones", that construction he has made in his head about how he's playing a game, a fairy tale in which he's the protagonist. Honestly, Sansa has learned more in life than LF in all of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drogonthedread Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Lf's grandfather he should have never crossed narrow sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis broatheon Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 so, Brandon should had gone and said "ah, Petyr... it's so bad you were born poor. Take my bride, be happy and fuck all the alliances our parents have made for our lands because love overtakes society!". If Brandon had killed LF, we wouldn't be having all the problems we have today. No one was going to mourn LF except Cat. No wars were going to be fought in name of LF. Cat asked Brandon not to hurt him and Brandon agreed. If anything, they were kind towards him. I love how people often blames Sansa for everything due to her naivety, but LF's own naivety caused all this mess. Why do you think he told Sansa that songs are just songs? Because he ALSO BELIEVED on them. He thought his love and will would help him to defeat Brandon and that Cat would run into his arms. It did not. And after his songs didn't come to happen, he decided to destroy all of the "monsters". And I say "monsters" because that's how he sees everything: like a game. Ah, the "game of thrones", that construction he has made in his head about how he's playing a game, a fairy tale in which he's the protagonist. Honestly, Sansa has learned more in life than LF in all of his.We dont have a LF PoV. He maybe something completly different than we may think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned's Honour Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Rhaegar. I hate to say it because he's one of my favourite characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grail King Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Rhaegar. I hate to say it because he's one of my favourite characters Maybe for RR along with Lyanna, but when it ended, there is 10 -15 years of relative peace, until LF and Lysa did their dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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