Matter-of-fact Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 what if Robb used his authority as king to ( levée en masse )forced mass military conscription of all able-bodied, men in North and Riverland to try to match the lannisters strength and stayed in the riverlands on the defensive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kandrax Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Red wedding still happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-of-fact Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 23 minutes ago, Kandrax said: Red wedding still happens. why it still happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Mac Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Matter-of-fact said: what if Robb used his authority as king to ( levée en masse )forced mass military conscription of all able-bodied, men in North and Riverland to try to match the lannisters strength and stayed in the riverlands on the defensive? Then he'd face rebellion from his own side as he'd be dooming the North to winter and making them incredibly vulnerable to attack, both domestic and foreign, while they were away. He'd also have never been in a position to save Riverrun as raising such an army is going to take much longer (it is not as simple as sending out a raven) as is finding the extra provisions to feed this host and the extra equipment to arm them. The amount of men raised in the north already caused issues with defense and farming, raising more would only have exacerbated the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowy Tends Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 The "Levée en masse" didn't exist during medieval times, hence we have no reason to believe it exists in Westeros. It's a Revolutionary regim thing, it has nothing to do with "King's authority". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Warning Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Even if they had the infrastructure to achieve that why would you bother? He wouldn't have more combat ready men with sufficient equipment than the Lannisters he'd have more mouths to feed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Bolt Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 One thing is that Robb do not has access to professional NCO or officer cores that make massive armies possible. For instance Romans had their Principales (Roman NCO) and Centurions who made Roman legions work. So instead of working army he would have totally useless mob. Another thing is that most people are loyal to their own lords or ladies and at least some of them would think that trying to summon so many people would be very bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kandrax Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 11 hours ago, Matter-of-fact said: why it still happens? Because, mass levy wouldn't prevent fall of Winterfell and sex with Jeyne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kandrax Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 9 hours ago, Nowy Tends said: Levée en masse" didn't exist during medieval times Actually, in medieval Serbia there was concept of mass levy called Zamanitchka Voyska used in case of emergency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Ok, that would increase size of his army manifold. However: - where would he find resources to feed such army? - where would he find weapons to equip it? - how would he train them on such a quick notice? - who would be left to work the fields and harvest the food for winter? Therefore, it's not a feasible idea by any stretch of imagination. If you want an analogy from pre-modern times, in ancient China 8 families were expected to equip and send one warrior to serve in the army in times of war. This was a ratio that was considered doable and manageable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowy Tends Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Kandrax said: Actually, in medieval Serbia there was concept of mass levy called Zamanitchka Voyska used in case of emergency. Yes, I guess it's the equivalent of the arrière-ban; in most european countries an EXTREME danger (like an invasion) allowed the Lords to summon every able-bodied men living on his lands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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