Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Doran really cares about his family. I always find it too suspicious that he sent Quentyn to Yronwoods and Daenerys. Maybe he didn't. He could send him to Norvos with his wife and give Yronwoods fake Quentyn (one of the boys in Water Gardens). Or he could keep real Quentyn among children in Water Gardens which explains why he keeps watching these children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moiraine Sedai Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Quentyn believed he was Quentyn. Doran loves his family so much so that he is blind to their faults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldve Taken The Black Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn said: Doran really cares about his family. I always find it too suspicious that he sent Quentyn to Yronwoods and Daenerys. Maybe he didn't. He could send him to Norvos with his wife and give Yronwoods fake Quentyn (one of the boys in Water Gardens). Or he could keep real Quentyn among children in Water Gardens which explains why he keeps watching these children. He sent him to the Yronwoods because he needed to heal the rift created by Oberyns duel. He sent him to Dany because he wanted to form an alliance with the Targaryens and restore them to the throne. He does love his children, but in that world, children of lords and princes aren't just little darlings to be sheltered. They're political animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Moiraine Sedai said: Quentyn believed he was Quentyn. Doran loves his family so much so that he is blind to their faults. And fAegon believes he is really Rhaegar's son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldve Taken The Black Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 You could ask: "Tywin loves Jaime, why does he allow him to go into battle? He might get hurt." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Shouldve Taken The Black said: You could ask: "Tywin loves Jaime, why does he allow him to go into battle? He might get hurt." Jaime knows how to fight but Quentyn doesn't know how to plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldve Taken The Black Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn said: Jaime knows how to fight but Quentyn doesn't know how to plot. Jaime learned on the job. The 7k are littered with squires who were slower learners. My point is that children of great lords are lobbed into the game young. They aren't sheltered like we do with our own children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell's son Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 23 minutes ago, Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn said: Doran really cares about his family. I always find it too suspicious that he sent Quentyn to Yronwoods and Daenerys. Maybe he didn't. He could send him to Norvos with his wife and give Yronwoods fake Quentyn (one of the boys in Water Gardens). Or he could keep real Quentyn among children in Water Gardens which explains why he keeps watching these children. this, while not to the degree of euron, benjen or dario beng everyone else, is still a huge reach and is totally unsupported, bordering on fan fic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldve Taken The Black Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, Dorian Martell's son said: this, while not to the degree of euron, benjen or dario beng everyone else, is still a huge reach and is totally unsupported, bordering on fan fic I like to imagine a scenario where everyone's "theory" that X is not really X he's actually Y are all true. Take a step back and imagine that, and you can see how absurd these theories are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 29 minutes ago, Dorian Martell's son said: this, while not to the degree of euron, benjen or dario beng everyone else, is still a huge reach and is totally unsupported, bordering on fan fic series is not over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell's son Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn said: series is not over. are you sure, like betting sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell's son Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, Shouldve Taken The Black said: I like to imagine a scenario where everyone's "theory" that X is not really X he's actually Y are all true. Take a step back and imagine that, and you can see how absurd these theories are. its like people read the books and then feel the need to rewrite them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus Snow Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn said: Doran really cares about his family. I always find it too suspicious that he sent Quentyn to Yronwoods and Daenerys. Maybe he didn't. He could send him to Norvos with his wife and give Yronwoods fake Quentyn (one of the boys in Water Gardens). Or he could keep real Quentyn among children in Water Gardens which explains why he keeps watching these children. And what's the grand plan? Doran lets Dany marry fQuent and watches his chance to get his grandchild on the IT usurped by his own fake? Or he shouts out 'only kidding' at the wedding, and switches out the bridegroom at the last minute, hoping that dragons have a better understanding of guest right than weasels do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 Doran's grand plan was marriage between Arianne and Aegon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legitimate_Bastard Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Dorian Martell's son said: are you sure, like betting sure? frightening thought.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euron III Greyjoy Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I feel like if that was the case we wouldn't have gotten a Quentyn POV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, EloImFizzy said: I feel like if that was the case we wouldn't have gotten a Quentyn POV. Many readers understood that Robb's going to die because he didn't have POV chapters. This time GRRM didn't give a chance for any hint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euron III Greyjoy Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn said: Many readers understood that Robb's going to die because he didn't have POV chapters. This time GRRM didn't give a chance for any hint. I mean we probably wouldn't get a Quentyn POV if he was a fake Quentyn. Calling Quentyn a fake feels like one of those "Its been over 7 years since the last book came out, we need something else to discuss" topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey family reunion Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn said: Doran really cares about his family. I always find it too suspicious that he sent Quentyn to Yronwoods and Daenerys. Maybe he didn't. He could send him to Norvos with his wife and give Yronwoods fake Quentyn (one of the boys in Water Gardens). Or he could keep real Quentyn among children in Water Gardens which explains why he keeps watching these children. Curious as to who you think our Quentyn might be? I've got a theory that the "end" to Quentyn's story arc may be one of the most significant happening in the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train to Kathmandu Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Rufus Snow said: And what's the grand plan? Doran lets Dany marry fQuent and watches his chance to get his grandchild on the IT usurped by his own fake? Or he shouts out 'only kidding' at the wedding, and switches out the bridegroom at the last minute, hoping that dragons have a better understanding of guest right than weasels do? There is logic in this comment. Sending a fake to marry the most powerful person in the world is not going to help Doran's family put theirs on the throne. No, Doran sent his true son to the most powerful person in the world because he expected to create a strong bond of alliance with The Dragon Queen. 4 hours ago, Moiraine Sedai said: Quentyn believed he was Quentyn. Doran loves his family so much so that he is blind to their faults. There is logic here as well. The sharp reader can see all of Quentyn's faults but a father may be blind enough not to see those flaws. They do share the same resemblance. Doran's sunglasses keeps him from seeing his son's lack of handsomeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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