How did Ned find Lyanna after Robert's rebelion?

[frenin]

1 hour ago, Universal Sword Donor said:

Book just says that Ned doesn’t like Varys. That could be for any number of reasons (eg associating Lyannas death with his inaction, being a spy, whatever), not reminiscing on it is hardly a substantive problem. He barely thinks about the situation at all until he gets into his fever dream anyway

Ned is introduced point blank to the Council tho. And the books are quite clear that Ned doesn't like Varys because of the latter being an sleazy guy.

Not remembering someone who gave him vital info about her sister is simply too much to believe. He sees Renly and marvels about how much he looks to og Robert but he has several conversations with the man who helped him tracked down his sister and there's not even a hint of a deeper connection??

[Universal Sword Donor]

4 hours ago, frenin said:

Ned is introduced point blank to the Council tho. And the books are quite clear that Ned doesn't like Varys because of the latter being an sleazy guy.

Not remembering someone who gave him vital info about her sister is simply too much to believe. He sees Renly and marvels about how much he looks to og Robert but he has several conversations with the man who helped him tracked down his sister and there's not even a hint of a deeper connection??

Point blank it’s not. Recollect his thoughts when Robert visited her grave. We get *nothing* about that time. 

[frenin]

5 hours ago, Universal Sword Donor said:

Point blank it’s not. Recollect his thoughts when Robert visited her grave. We get *nothing* about that time. 

We get the promise me Ned, we get how Lyanna was lying in blood etc.

There's no hint whatsoever that those two even knew each other before their meeting in AGOT.

[Springwatch]

How about this?

Aerys becomes aware his unruly son has fallen passionately in love with Lyanna, and is hiding her somewhere. Aerys sees a useful pawn to control Rhaegar, and demands his council get hold of her and bring her to KL.  (As he did with Elia; things repeat in these books.)

Someone has the bright idea of questioning  Arthur Dayne, Rhaegar's closest friend: Arthur can't disobey a direct order from his king, spills the beans, and goes off to fetch Lyanna (finds her too ill to move, and stays to wait out the pregnancy).

So Lyanna's location isn't really secret anymore - the Council know, probably other people too. If Ned doesn't trust one source, he can double check with others - most people would be happy to see Lyanna back with her family; where better?

So Arthur at the ToJ is very conflicted. His orders say bring Lyanna to KL. Targ loyalists (like himself!) want to smuggle Rhaegar's family away and raise them as princes ready to go to war for the iron throne. Ned just wants his sister back.

This could be where little Howland Reed saves the day - not by fighting, but by forcing Arthur to see that Plan A is insane, but on the other hand, Ned (as a leader of the winning side) could be helpful in allowing Elia's and Rhaella's children to slip out of the country. Ned would do this; it's what he planned for Cersei's children, and things repeat in these books.

Arthur surrenders, and falls on his sword like a good KG should. Ned gets Jon and a short time with Lyanna. In return, he collects Dawn and goes off for a serious talk with the Daynes. Job done.

[BRANDON GREYSTARK]

On 9/27/2021 at 3:25 PM, Frey family reunion said:

No, Ned left King's Landing to "fight the last battles of the war alone in the south."

Ned never once thinks about searching for Lyanna.

 

On 9/27/2021 at 3:03 PM, Odej said:

After the Sack of King's Landing Ned and Robert had a fight 'cause of the brutal murdered of Rhaegar's wife and children, so Ned leave the capital and go looking for Lyanna. How did he find her? She could be anywhere and she was in a tower in the middle of nothing in Dorne. Does he just go asking around until he find someone who had see something in somewhere the could be a sixteen old missing girl? How many people could tell him where she was?

Ashara Dayne .

[Here's Looking At You, Kid]

On 9/27/2021 at 3:31 PM, Frey family reunion said:

You're assuming that his trip to the tower of joy was to locate/free Lyanna.  It's kind of an assumption the readers are making at this point.  Because only taking 6 people with him is passing strange for an attempt to free Lyanna.  Even stranger is that all 6 men that he took with him were people who were either very loyal to House Stark, or had some type of relationship with either Brandon or Lyanna.  

It's almost as if whatever he anticipated finding inside the tower, was something he wanted kept a closely held Stark secret.  Because it seems even Robert and Jon Arryn were kept in the dark of this operation.

You just opened an interesting door of possibilities.  Lord Ned Stark of Winterfell should travel with a large escort.  So why only the handful.  To keep a secret is a good answer.  In other words, he expected to find something he will need to hide.  He was also not expecting to have a run in with 3 of Aerys Targaryen's Kingsguards.  Great Jon would have made the party if Ned was expecting a tough fight.  He was not expecting resistance or the secret outweighed the need for more men.  Ned broke etiquette by leaving his fallen comrades behind.  He tore down a stone tower and piled the stones on their graves.  Grief can make a person do silly things but this was not an act of impulse.  He took the time to tear down a tower and used the rocks to mark the graves.  Why not use free rocks to do that.  He felt the need to tear down the tower to hide a secret.  The secret cannot be cleaned away.  

The squire could not have lasted long in that fight.  I have to question the ethics of a squire who would take up arms against anointed knights.  It's not proper.  He received the benefit of a pardon because he was only a squire.  Entertain for a moment that the squire lived and Aegon was born at the tower.  Ethan could join him in exile if Lyanna was the mom.  It's one way to escape the shame and care for her boy.